Negative traits and Doubles

[Long_Bomb]

There was a time when a doubles roll would allow a player to remove a negative trait. I liked the fact that it made it possible with some luck to build a Big Guy with the same profile as one of the Star Players. It also gave some hope to Vampire and Ogre teams. I would be tempted to add this as a House Rule but I can’t help feeling there was a reason it was removed in the first place. Does anyone think with the current CRP this addition would make Big Guy teams too powerful?

[Tourach]

Surely would make the vampire team a lot better, imho...

[Thadrin]

too good imho.
Same with Ogres.
Which is why the option was removed.
The stars are meant to be absolutely exceptional individuals.

[txapo]

you could do it as house rule just for a 12, son you will have the choice of extra 1ST or removing it,... ¿what to do?

[duckwing]

I also think that a house rule like this should only make it possible to remove nega-traits on a 12, with the value of 50k.

Of course, all nega-traits shouldn't be possible to remove either. Only Bone-head, Really Stupid and Wild Animal. Bloodlust, Decay and Secret Weapon shouldn't be removable at all.

[spubbbba]

I also think that a house rule like this should only make it possible to remove nega-traits on a 12, with the value of 50k.

Of course, all nega-traits shouldn't be possible to remove either. Only Bone-head, Really Stupid and Wild Animal. Bloodlust, Decay and Secret Weapon shouldn't be removable at all.

Why not decay and Bloodlust? Ramtut and the count don't have those traits.

I do think it would make some players too powerful, but remember with a double you can give a big guy pro which does go soem way to alleviate the trait.

the 50K idea is interesting, the big guy players still have loner but ogre teams and vamps don't so that wpuld be a bit nasty. Mind you both those teams are quite weak so for them it might not be so game breaking.

Wood elves with a no take root tree or Orcs with a non-really stupud troll would be pretty nasty.

[SixNapoleons]

I too like the idea of it being theoretically possible to build players resembling the existing star players. In my own league, I'm considering allowing it instead of any stat increase.

[GalakStarscraper]

I have agreed before and still do that it is okay making a roll of a 12 be: +1 ST or remove one Negative Skill. With either being a 50k improvement to the player.

Bone-head, Wild Animal, Really Stupid, Always Hungry, Take Root, Bloodlust, and Decay would all be eligible for this.

I like it as a house rule for a league.

Tom

[Long_Bomb]

Well if Galak endorses the double-six rule I would be tempted to introduce it to a league. All I need now are some loaded dice and I could have an awesome team of Vampires.

[inkpwn]

I suppose some one needs to define 'negative traits' and make a list for this, seeing as removing something like secret weapon would make goblins broken. Or a looney with hands.

Wild animal
Decay
Blood lust
Bonehead
Really stupid
Always hungry (?)
Take root
Loner
Hobgoblin


Did I miss any?
Maybe it could 'reduce' the skill to a better equivalent? Say really stupid becomes bonehead. An orc team would be broken with four ST4 and one ST5 no negatrait pieces.

[GalakStarscraper]

50k is a lot of value you are adding for this. The figure still has Loner normally or if you take off Loner they still have the other nega-trait.

Why? is Hobgoblin on the list?

Tom

[inkpwn]

Because being a hobgoblin is a negatrait in of itself

[inkpwn]

50k is a lot of value you are adding for this. The figure still has Loner normally or if you take off Loner they still have the other nega-trait
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Tom

True, 20k increase? Same as a regular skill. A big guy does have to give up a chance at block to do it.

[Darkson]

50K or not possible.

[inkpwn]

Well it makes a bloodlustless vampire 160k, a smart troll 160k,190k for a genius beast of nurgle and 200k for a loner less minotaur. E.t.c

A couple bloodlustless vampires can make a vampire team broken and its worth the TV.
But with a one in 6 chance of getting a double, wildly increased TV and forsaking a reguar double skill on you big guy do you think 50k's worth it?

I wouldn't mind a 40k increase, its not a bloodweiser babe worth of inducment value. A small picky change I know but what do you think about 40k?