New Werewolf player

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:19 pm

8/4/3/7 Catch, Frenzy, RSC 110k G/A

EH GADS!!!! JJ what is this thing that you have created!

The 2nd edition Were's stats are fine and we've been testing them for over a year with NO ONE screaming they are out of line.

Creating some good awful Wardancer for the Were is just a freaking joke. Note to self ... look at team building rules ... oh yeah ... look ... never mix RSC, Claw, or Block on a roster player with ST 4+.

And then you give this guy AG ACCESS???!!!!! Since the MBBL is LRB + experimental I have to allow the team .... but don't be surprised if I add a line of code to the PBeM tool that says ... if Position=Werewolf then NewD6 roll = D6 roll -2 .... if NewD6 roll<1 then NewD6=1.

This player is a complete waste of the time, energy, and ink used to create him. I'm so glad that the history of the game and past discussion on this topic is so useless for these types of exercises.

I've seen two suggestions for the were over the last 6 months that had merit:

6/3/3/7 Frenzy, Razor Sharp Fangs G/S (Chet's proposal)
7/4/2/8 Mighty Blow, Break Tackle, Frenzy G/S (this was the stats of the were from 2nd edition)

The version published is a joke with a punchline that I must of missed.

Galak

Post by **voyagers_uk** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:27 pm

Tom,

stop beating around the bush and tell the man how you really feel.

if you just bottle up your feelings no one will know.

seriously though not having read the piece, he does seem a trifle powerful and cheap when compared to say a witch elf...

may have to consider them for a team in the local league, although I will actually pass that to another guy who is a bit disillusioned at the mo.

Pink Horror · Post by **Pink Horror** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:27 pm

He must have a big stock of new werewolf minis that have to be sold quickly.

Pink Horror

Post by **Thadrin** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:44 pm

And I just read the fluff about the Khemri team on the Website.

MAGIC-FRIKKIN'-HELMETS?????????

Now I have to get myself a copy of the magazine.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:07 pm

Sorry ... sorry .... sorry ... Chet just let me know
that the stats for the were are:

8/3/3/7 .... in which case ... I would like to official retract all my comments above, the player is fine ... and save them for complete MORONS who post sneak peaks at information INCORRECTLY!!!!

Galak

Piepgrass · Post by **Piepgrass** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 8:12 pm

Normally i would be inclined to agree with you Tom but there is only 1 on the roster. Allso they have lost the acces to Mummies and instead they got fleshgolems. oh and its a mistake about ST4 in my mag its a st 3.

Heres the team for you.

0-12 Zombie Standard nothing new.

0-4 ghouls Standard nothing new.

0-4 Wights Standard nothing new.

0-2 Fleshgolems 4 4 2 9 Standfirm. Breacktackle. Thick skull.
120 K G+ST acces

0-1 Werewolf 8 3 3 7 Catch. Frenzy Razor sharp fangs.
110 k. G+A acces.
Rerolls 70 k.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Poul

Dangerous Dave · Post by **Dangerous Dave** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:04 pm

So 7 probable starters with no regen and no apoth.... Ouch! None of them start with Block and 5 have av 7. Yikes. Most Coaches tend to say "Ghouls break easy".... I always tend to take Block first up with them for this reason. But now you have a 5th av7 player without Block or Dodge... sure he could be very useful on blitz but make sure he gets the hell out after!

Sure the 2 Flesh Golems add some muscle and with Break Tackle and Stand Firm they will be a right pain and can move around to help the vulnerable ones.

This new team against Dwarves (or CDs) is going to suffer big time....

Dave

Lucien Swift · Post by **Lucien Swift** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:11 pm

sounds like a nice tidy little horror movie roster to me... who cares if don't make sense to wfb players... we don't like them anyway!

DaFrenchCoach · Post by **DaFrenchCoach** » Sun Aug 25, 2002 8:11 am

M+1, AV-1, remove catch... then it's wihelm chaney... This one costs 140 k. A mistake I hope.

To be frank, I would appreciate they may add a vampire lord instead of this werewolf (sound marketing plan for me: a stock o wihelm chaney minis to sell ?

).

Fenryll · Post by **Fenryll** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 12:09 pm

Are you sur that there is 4 Wights ???

I think that i see there are just 2 of them.
I agree with Dangerous Dave, this team have a lot of Av7 and without Regeneration and Apo (except Zombies and Wights), it will be really hard to play vs Dwarf or Orks.

Trambi · Post by **Trambi** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 1:32 pm

Guys i'm happy that Undead teams have changed (and remove from their list the mummies which according to the WH world can't belong to this team).

The team seem less strong, that's good cos it the background only Champion of Death have won the BB.

However, in some tournaments (Amsterdam

) Undead teams are the best teams (perhaps with the best coachs

) so this is a good way to balance the game.

McDeth · Post by **McDeth** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 1:44 pm

Trambi wrote: The team seem less strong, that's good cos it the background only Champion of Death have won the BB.

The Champions of Death in my mind are a Khemri team, after all they've got Mummies Undead now don't.

viewtopic.php?p=16836&highlight=#16836

This move was predicted with the Mummies moving from the Undead roster back a while ago. Personnally this is a time where i am actually disappointed that i was right. Undead have already suffered enough in the rule transistion from 3rd to 4th and this i think is a real crap decision, just to get the sales of the old Frank N stein and Cheney figures back.

Hell what am i going to do with my Mummies now, as they don't even fit in with the Khemri team look. I for one am disappointed.

And lets have new fig for them not the old second edition leftovers

Fenryll · Post by **Fenryll** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:03 pm

Hoho !!!

Wait a minute !!!!

Do you say that now that there is the new Khemri team, you couldn't play the classic Undead Team.

But that is a piece of shit, i've just buy an undead team to the Vpc.

Like Mc Deth say, the undead suffer from 3rd to 4th editions. They loose Regeneration ( 2+ to 4+) and the possibility to have the Vampire Drakenborg.

And now, what ??? we loose mummies to have the silly werewolve !!!
what a shame !!! i don't understand why there is a werewolve in this team

The man who make this team =

Trambi · Post by **Trambi** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:06 pm

I agree, Champions of the death are Khemri but they have been presented as Undead team.

In second edition, the only one undead team are skeleton team (Khemri), but werewolves exists too in second edition so why not.

Fenryll · Post by **Fenryll** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:19 pm

Yes but i don't like the Khemri Team !!!

So Is the Khemri Team take place of Undead Team or Khemri is just a new team for the fan of the Undead ??