New Heresy Mino

Heresy_Bloke · Post by **Heresy_Bloke** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:03 pm

and feel free to help make it more playable! We don't want to make it too copmplicated, we're not aiming for bloodbowl rules here: no turnovers, and all that. It's not american football, it's pitfighting that happens to involve ball-shaped sacrificial tributes being passed around in an attempt to appease the dark god. But mainly, as Torg says: it's a beer and pretzels game. We want to make it a bit more balanced based on some of torg's early comments on it being one-sided. there are several messages regarding it on the Forum of Doom do pop by and read them!
there's also a great site by sonny bundgaard which features some of his gw and heresy figs amongst others, and he's got some fantastic conversions of a feral beastman team for deathball, plus a DB arena he's making. Click on Project deathball from the left hand menu.

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:59 pm

nice slogan of your banner, Andy... i did already as i hope !

Thx again for the nice mino. tomorow i will finish glueing him.

Traveller

Chairface · Post by **Chairface** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:38 am

Thanks for the link to Sonny's website, Andy. He's got some beautiful stuff on there.

bound for glory · Post by **bound for glory** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:58 am

that mino takes me back to my slame dancing days! looks like hes in the pit, if you know what i mean. bad religion, stone pony,asburypark, new jersey,1990. boy am i old...

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:04 pm

http://www.blood-bowl-miniatures.de/pic ... y_mino.jpg

a picts of the glued and greenstuffed Heresy mino to compare the scale with the 5.ed mino and a 3.ed human.

Really a nice pose of the Heresy mino !

Traveller

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:45 pm

So about the same size as the new Griff then?

Bonehead · Post by **Bonehead** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:37 pm

Nice pose indeed.
What were the other options like a different head or so if any?

hoomin_erra · Post by **hoomin_erra** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:08 pm

Why do you people insist on making me wanna spend all my money????? I'm a dad soon, i'm supposed to be saving, and yer tempting me with mini's like this!!!!!

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:43 pm

Just say it's for the kid (but he won't be able to play with it until he/she can play BB......don't teach the game to him until he's 14

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traveller · Post by **traveller** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:08 am

What were the other options like a different head or so if any?

There is a second head. I used the one with mask, but the bare head version is nice, too. A bit greenstuffing to fill the gapes between the single parts (BTW... 1 body, 2 legs, 2 arms, 2 hands and 2 heads) , but i used no pins on this mini. Well, if playing with the mini, maybe its better to use pining !

I glued the parts in three steps waiting between a few hours that the GS dried.

Traveller

Post by **Dave** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:33 am

the fig does have some cast-in pins .. I haven't tried glueing it yet ..

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:30 am

the fig does have some cast-in pins

hm, where ?... i didnt see them ?! Some "over-cast" at the end of the legs, which i cut away, but no holes to fit "cast in pins" into. Ok, the left arm got a mark so he fit in the right position.

But no prob to glue with GS IMO.

Traveller

Ithilkir · Post by **Ithilkir** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:10 pm

Gnghh...

I want to like this... really I do... I love Minotaurs, I love Blood Bo... Fantasy Football.... But I just don't like this mini

I can sadly only judge it from the photos but it just sits looking at me like "Acme Minotaur" with huge hands and hooves. Not too fond of the pose either, just seems...I dunno, it's hard to put my finger on it but it looks like it's sprinting comedy style instead of charging bull style (not enough 'weight' sinking the legs down and the muscle of th legs pushing the beast up and forward).

While I'm sure it is a nice fig, it just doesn't do it for me sadly

Wonder what a mino in a three point stance would look like... probably a bit crap for a model mind you.

Heresy_Bloke · Post by **Heresy_Bloke** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:27 pm

Ithilkir wrote:Gnghh...

I want to like this... really I do... I love Minotaurs, I love Blood Bo... Fantasy Football.... But I just don't like this mini I can sadly only judge it from the photos but it just sits looking at me like "Acme Minotaur" with huge hands and hooves. Not too fond of the pose either, just seems...I dunno, it's hard to put my finger on it but it looks like it's sprinting comedy style instead of charging bull style (not enough 'weight' sinking the legs down and the muscle of th legs pushing the beast up and forward).

While I'm sure it is a nice fig, it just doesn't do it for me sadly

Wonder what a mino in a three point stance would look like... probably a bit crap for a model mind you.

How would you (assuming for the moment that you could if you wanted to) sculpt a minotaur? Bear in mind you need to convey strength and speed, whilst making a fair representation of 'man meets bull'...And you can't let it look like an ogre with a cow head. Big hands and feet are the traditional way of representing strength, though it has to be said that they're far more in "proportion" (i use the word contemptuously, it's a friggin minotaur, so there are no rules that apply) on this model than say on an ogre or giant. where the hands can be as big as the model's head.
Also, you need to make a minotaur that looks distinct from all the other , ahem, ACME minotaurs out there.

Thought about 3 legged stance, but you need to have human legs for that to look good. The minotaur looks Farming awesome in real life, but then I would say that wouldn't I?

"it seems like it's sprinting comedy style"

Close, but not comedy, comic book. You try making a model with two sets of knees run. How many minotaurs in your collection are running? Or are they all standing still, two feet planted on the ground, doing not a lot?

Are you coming to partizan or salute this year,in the UK. you can see it there.

And if you think I'm being snippy or unecessarily defensive, think how hard I worked on it for you to come on and dismiss it.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course

I can't make you like it if you don't: but I suspect you don't like it partly because it's not designed in the style you're used to, I'm an acquired taste!

Acme minotaur my arse!

Cheers
Andy

Course, this is where he tells me he's got loads of heresy stuff and i look a proper Bat.

Chairface · Post by **Chairface** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:01 am

He's obviously crazy Andy.