Conversion potential of new GW plastic Harlequins

[JT-Y]

I pay it happily.

I don't consider it overly expensive when I get what I want and the quality is what I demand. I recently bought a cheap option from somewhere else, and they went straight into the effing bin; never seen such atrocious quality models.
Others may like junk for a low price, I don't.

[chigger254]

I pay it happily.

I don't consider it overly expensive when I get what I want and the quality is what I demand. I recently bought a cheap option from somewhere else, and they went straight into the effing bin; never seen such atrocious quality models.
Others may like junk for a low price, I don't.

I fully support people spending their money on what they want. I also have paid for garbage miniatures before that also just get tossed in a box.

Nowadays though, unless you're looking for something specific that only GW can get you, they are no longer the biggest kid on the block in terms of high quality and highly detailed miniatures, although they may be the most expensive option.

In regards to these Harlequins specifically though, I am not seeing anything amazing about them detail wise that makes me think they are worth the money, unless you're factoring in the customization options someone else said they come with. I may just have been spoiled by other manufacturers putting out extremely nice products the last few year though, regularly competing with each other to up their quality while I haven't really seen GW do much more than increase prices.

[DixonCider]

I pay it happily.

I don't consider it overly expensive when I get what I want and the quality is what I demand. I recently bought a cheap option from somewhere else, and they went straight into the effing bin; never seen such atrocious quality models.
Others may like junk for a low price, I don't.

I fully support people spending their money on what they want. I also have paid for garbage miniatures before that also just get tossed in a box.

Nowadays though, unless you're looking for something specific that only GW can get you, they are no longer the biggest kid on the block in terms of high quality and highly detailed miniatures, although they may be the most expensive option.

In regards to these Harlequins specifically though, I am not seeing anything amazing about them detail wise that makes me think they are worth the money, unless you're factoring in the customization options someone else said they come with. I may just have been spoiled by other manufacturers putting out extremely nice products the last few year though, regularly competing with each other to up their quality while I haven't really seen GW do much more than increase prices.

I have no issue paying for quality, but GW has gone a little far. as Rayphoton said

sausten wrote:
What is it with GW, how can they possibly justify £24 for six plastic minis and £16 for the other guy?

people keep paying....its pretty good justification sadly

how much difference is there between the single guy and the pack?

[spubbbba]

Unlike the previous generation of Harlequins they aren't covered in sci fi junk, the only obvious bits are the small power packs on their backs, a pretty easy fix, and the weapons, which are easier again.

There are 13 different heads in each box, and 5 can be assembled without long coats. and all the legs, torsos and arms are interchangeable.
I think the long coats for blitzers is about spot on, and careful use of the heads would help denote catchers, thrower and line very easily.

And there is more coming; jetbikes this week, no real use but more heads, arms and torsos on the crew. And Deathjesters, Shadowseers and, hopefully, Great Harlequins as well.
So there is plenty of scope for stars as well. Personally I think the Solitaire has Hubris Rakarth written all over it.

Harlequin check isn't essential. There is a decent shot on the inside cover of this weeks WD showing a staffers Quins painted in simple block colours, and that really proves their potential as an Elf team.

Just checked out the Skyweaver jetbikes sadly they are a double pack and come with vehicles so are likely to be very pricey and it will be hard or expensive to get just the crew of bits suppliers. However if the bikes themselves are in demand that might make it feasible to keep the crew and sell those off.

Whilst the riders look a bit awkward their more static pose could work as throwers. I don’t know about the drivers being any use, I suspect they will have flat parts on their legs to better fit the seat. With a lot of work it might be possible to turn them into sprinting runners, certainly with the top half. Even then I think the legs would only be salvageable as spare parts.

Good point about not having to use the garish harlequin colour scheme for Bloodbowl, I have always preferred a more limited palette. Mind you using the patterns on certain models and having standard team colours with certain variety could be used to help differentiate between the positionals. Say blue and white with some parts having yellow diamonds for catchers, red for blitzers etc.

So JT-Y are you tempted? I’ve seen awesome Norse, Dwarf and recently Orc teams from you, would love to see what you’d do with elves.


Regarding the prices, it doesn't seem that much for me at £4 per model either. I actually prefer plastic to metal and it's the quality of the sculpting as well as the casting which is most important.

If a model is ugly as sin it doesn't matter how cheap it is. I've seen some very mediocre fantasy football sculpts of comparable price to GW's fantasy and sci-fi range get heaped with praise here.

[JT-Y]

I'm rather hoping that the jetbikes will come with the same sort of excess of heads and arms/weapons as the basic kist, so there will be plenty floating around Ebay. I expect armies to sell in droves, so there should be plenty of bits doing the rounds in coming weeks.

And yes, Pelfs using these models is straight to the top of my list. I have the MK1881 Pelfs, which are stunningly good, but for personal preferance I'd always lean towards plastic or resin for a game in which the models get so much handling as they do in BB, so these have bumped those with an eye on the World cup and time to do something new in.

I did start converting a Harlequin team a while ago, but got annoyed by all the grenades and junks so sold them on.

[Darkson]

Bit disappointed in the Jetbikes, compared to the old originals.

[Rayphoton]

I pay it happily.

I don't consider it overly expensive when I get what I want and the quality is what I demand. I recently bought a cheap option from somewhere else, and they went straight into the effing bin; never seen such atrocious quality models.
Others may like junk for a low price, I don't.

Nowadays though, unless you're looking for something specific that only GW can get you, they are no longer the biggest kid on the block in terms of high quality and highly detailed miniatures, although they may be the most expensive option.

In regards to these Harlequins specifically though, I am not seeing anything amazing about them detail wise that makes me think they are worth the money, unless you're factoring in the customization options someone else said they come with. I may just have been spoiled by other manufacturers putting out extremely nice products the last few year though, regularly competing with each other to up their quality while I haven't really seen GW do much more than increase prices.

I have no issue paying for quality, but GW has gone a little far. as Rayphoton said

sausten wrote:
What is it with GW, how can they possibly justify £24 for six plastic minis and £16 for the other guy?

people keep paying....its pretty good justification sadly

how much difference is there between the single guy and the pack?

I think the solitaire is 22 usd? Or close too.

[Steam Ball]

26 vs 40 if you prefer USD.

[nonumber]

If a model is ugly as sin it doesn't matter how cheap it is. I've seen some very mediocre fantasy football sculpts of comparable price to GW's fantasy and sci-fi range get heaped with praise here.

This.

I thought £40-60 was the standard range for a Blood Bowl team. Just a quick glance on Willy Miniatures site, 49.95 € for 8 Amazon linewomen. Or £37.29.

Now Willy Miniatures produces some excellent teams (definitely not saying their models are ugly) but that's 8 linewomen.

[JaM]

These models SHOULD be compatible with the current line up of Dark Elves...

[Stout Youngblood]

I am a big fan of Impact Miniatures and they are selling (full 16+ figures) teams for $35 to $45.

[frogboy]

I am a big fan of Impact Miniatures and they are selling (full 16+ figures) teams for $35 to $45.

Thats a good price for single cast minis. I'm a fan of Black Scorpion miniatures which go for a similar price plus I prefer to support British companies

[JT-Y]

Well.

I've just collected 2 boxes of Harlequins and I'm glad I did. They're excellent. Plenty of scope for denoting the positionals on an Elf team using different types of head/mask, and the range of long, short and no coat torsos, and they'll take next to no work to convert.
The hardest part will be deciding on poses because the scope is endless.

They will interchange with the Deldar very easily; waist, arms and necks all have the same fit as the Wych and Warriors Deldar kits. So yeah, loads of scope.

Waiting on the codex now. 40k Kill Teams (200pts) and Combat Patrol (500pts) is very popular at the club, and I could be tempted by a small Harlequin force as well.
It's like being 12 all over again.

[frogboy]

Haha happy days, well done GW

Nice review BTW, looks like I'll be getting them at some point too

[JT-Y]

Correction though, the ball and socket on the waist is the opposite way around to the Deldar, so trickier.

But the Wych heads and arms are perfect. Having the frames in hand I've had a bit of a rethink and will be using the Quin bodies with Deldar Wych heads, and arms from Helf Shadow Warriors because the short sleeves give a nice silhouette.
The shoulder pads may get replaced with Cadian ones yet as well, I'll decide that when more are built.

But right now I'm very happy, these look like proper pro/wood elfs.