Talk Fantasy Football

dunno if any of you have seen this before or whatnot but i have just stumbled accross it

looks rather good if not a bit shiney

http://www.thewarp.net/war/theforge/oga ... krull.html

painting for the lazy

That really seems to work.

Impressive!

Sounds fast and easy.
I imagine a coat of matte varnish over the finished product would improve the overall look even more.

interesting technik...maybe a good way to do some base colors. But i just wonder, if, after the dipping action , the next paints will stay on the mini ?

Traveller

There were a ton of posts on this topic on theminiaturespage.com last year. Apparently it's a very common technique among historical wargamers who have to build vast armies.

I've heard of this technique but never seen pictures. It looks better than I'd imagined.

looks awesome tbh
going to go buy some nids now

Not bad, provided all you want is greeny brown nids

Interesting method but it'll never look any better than a lazy way of painting. I'd rather take the time to paint my £10 mini properly than dunk it a tin of creosote

I challenge someone to paint a team like this and have it win a painting prize at a fairly major event. Ain't gonna happen

Might be a good idea for rank-and-file but for Blood Bowl I prefer a bit more detail.

there is a way to use the simplicity of a dip idea and still get quality results. what you need to do is go ahead and basecoat everything, then get ahold of some future floor finish (this is an acryllic floor polish here in the US, i'm sure there is a european equivalent, maybe someone can help out here.

the trick is to, instead of dipping the whole figure in a black or brown tint, to brush on small sections of shading color using the acrylic liquid as the thinning agent instead of water.

when you do a wash with water, two bad things happen. first, the water dries faster than the paint, and pigment is often left high instead of low. this will require more shading later. works fine if you are giving it that much attention, but we're shooting for quick here. second, it dries dull and must still be coated in sealant.

when you wash with acryllic, you remove both of these negatives. the acryllic dries slower than the paint, which will settle in the crevasces and congeal before the acryllic over it dires solid. second, it will dry over the paint, giving a protective cover for most of the figure - you can skip sealant if you want.

so, doing each section of the base coat, mix a little darker paint than the base with the acryllic and just brush it on, hydrodynamics does all the work for you.

now, this is where the down sides of this method come into play. it is easier, but it takes longer and can't be well-mixed with other techniques.

the acryllic does dry very slow, sometimes for a large area you may need to leave it for hours. painting one section while another is wet will result in the paint getting mixed between the two and depending on the colors involved and nature of that part of the miniatre, may look like hell. experience teaches when you can risk a mix, but when the acryllic is half-dry it is a sticky paste, and you can make a mess real quick then too. this technique lends itself well to simple paint schemes on whole groups of figures spread over three or four nightt's work (and thus is so effective with historical miniatures).

what do you get at the end? very attractive wash shading and a protective coating. you won't win any competitions, but you will have decent looking figures.

unless you're painting 15mm historicals, skip the dip.

I know you can get acryllic flow improver and drying retarder from art stores - would these be the same thing?

And won't these f**k your brushes up really fast or require washing with turps? I tend to reform the point of my brush with my mouth but wouldn't fancy doing that when it was swimming in floor cleaner!

I do the same thing and have accidently reformed a brush with paint on it.

the future floor finish is water-soluble. your brushes wash off fine, as long as you are thorough.

acryllic extenders have done very little for me in the past, i have found many of them to leave an unattractive sheen on the figure. the floor polish is also able to provide a bit of a protective layer which an extender would not. floor polish is cheaper too. for five bucks i have been using the same bottle for years.

I'm not worried about paint since it's supposedly non-toxic, but floor cleaner isn't quite so safe