Frenzy question

gold_penguin · Post by **gold_penguin** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 2:07 am

I always read the description of frenzy to mean that you have to follow up if you push back your opponent, regardless of whether they also fall over, and regardless of whether it is on the first or second block.

However, recently in a table top league, other players have had other interpretations such as:
1)if you knock them over, it doesn't count as them being pushed back.
2) if you knock them over on the first block, you don't follow up, since you don't even use the frenzy skill.

I think they are wrong, but I was wondering what everyone else thinks.

Dark Lord (retired) · Post by **Dark Lord (retired)** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 2:23 am

Frenzy players follow up everytime. No matter what!

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 2:57 am

yes its always on you always have to follow up

give him a slap from me please!

Asmodan · Post by **Asmodan** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:28 am

You had got it right, frenzy players always follow up no matter if he ogt knocked down or not.

madhobbit · Post by **madhobbit** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:41 pm

gold_penguin wrote:2) if you knock them over on the first block, you don't follow up, since you don't even use the frenzy skill.

Using the Frenzy skill is not optional, so it's follow up every time.

gold_penguin · Post by **gold_penguin** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 3:02 am

well I didn't mind so much that he wasn't following up, since it was with a minotaur with piling on, and he had a stiletto from a handicap roll...

so you may be able to tell that from his interpretation of the rules, and the fact that he only piled on once the whole game that this guy wasn't a great player.... in fact I was a little disappointed to win by only 2-0.

Asmodan · Post by **Asmodan** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:23 am

Hehe

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:51 am

gold_penguin wrote:1)if you knock them over, it doesn't count as them being pushed back.

LRB pp11 POW result "The defending player is pushed back and then
knocked down in the square they are moved to. The attacking player may follow up the defender. field."

So you have to follow.

gold_penguin wrote:2) if you knock them over on the first block, you don't follow up, since you don't even use the frenzy skill.

LRB pp35 Frenzy skill description "A player with Frenzy must always follow an opponent up if they push them back."

It does not say, if you choose to use frenzy, it says you must.

Hope that helps convince your coaches.

gold_penguin · Post by **gold_penguin** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:47 am

Thanks ian,

that's the way I always read it too, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going mad.

Asmodan · Post by **Asmodan** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:28 am

Nope you wasn´t going mad but your friends was (is?)

Gorbad · Post by **Gorbad** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:36 am

I wouldn't say he wasn't going mad... he's calling himself a gold penguin, that's gotta be a sure sign of madness. (Or I could be drunk, seeing golden penguins...)

ChrizzDoUrden · Post by **ChrizzDoUrden** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:04 am

You're defenitly right! They always follow up!

TiMuN · Post by **TiMuN** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:53 pm

Sorry to bring this topic back ... but shouldn't this be re-worded somehow?

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