shadowing only 1 square?

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shadowing only 1 square?

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Hello,

I was scanning all the shadowing posts, but could not find anything on my basic question:

Are you only allowed to shadow one square?

Or could you try for every square someone moves away from you, so that if he moves 5 squares, could you end up 5 squares further away, right behind him?

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Quote-daemon to the rescue.
Bold my own emphasis.

Shadowing (General)
The player may use this skill when a player performing an Action on the opposing team moves out of any of his tackle zones for any reason. Each coach rolls a D6 and adds their own player’s movement allowance to the score. If the shadowing player’s coach manages to equal or beat the other coach’s score, then he may move his player into the square vacated by the opposing player. He does not have to make any Dodge rolls when he makes this move, and it has no effect on his own movement in his own turn. If the Shadowing player’s coach rolls less than the other coach’s score then his player is left standing. A player may make any number of shadowing moves per turn. If a player has left the tackle zone of several players that have the Shadowing skill, then only one of the opposing players may attempt to shadow him.


You should be able to roll to shadow for every square of movement.

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i read the "per turn", but this could mean different guys, like shadow the first (success or not) shadow the second guy, and so forth.

am just not sure if a move is handled as a set of squares or one square each, which of course is the case with other situations, say dodge.

just want to be sure because it seems like a pretty powerful skill.

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It is only powerfull with a high MA. And even then its better when combined with Sidestep, or you just get blitzed away. But it is indeed a very good 2nd or 3rd skill for a safety/hunter.

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Angeblich wrote:i read the "per turn", but this could mean different guys, like shadow the first (success or not) shadow the second guy, and so forth.

am just not sure if a move is handled as a set of squares or one square each, which of course is the case with other situations, say dodge.

just want to be sure because it seems like a pretty powerful skill.
Daefaroth wrote:Quote-daemon to the rescue.
Bold my own emphasis.

Shadowing (General)
The player may use this skill when a player performing an Action on the opposing team moves out of any of his tackle zones for any reason. Each coach rolls a D6 and adds their own player’s movement allowance to the score. If the shadowing player’s coach manages to equal or beat the other coach’s score, then he may move his player into the square vacated by the opposing player. He does not have to make any Dodge rolls when he makes this move, and it has no effect on his own movement in his own turn. If the Shadowing player’s coach rolls less than the other coach’s score then his player is left standing. A player may make any number of shadowing moves per turn. If a player has left the tackle zone of several players that have the Shadowing skill, then only one of the opposing players may attempt to shadow him.


You should be able to roll to shadow for every square of movement.
The way I read it is: As soon as an opponent leaves a tackle zone of your shadow player you can roll to see if you can "follow" the opponent. If that opponent does that say 6 times in his during his movement you can "follow" him six time's (if your roll is equal or beat the other coach’s score every time you roll the dice). If the player ends up with a nother opponent in his tackle zone and the opponent moves out of your tackle zone, you can "follow" that opponent around the bord. and so on.

In the skill text the player is the mini on the bord and not you the coach, thats how I read it anyway, I might very well be a cheater.

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Post by GalakStarscraper »

Player means figure on the pitch.

So yes ... you could in theory follow the movement of every player during a turn with one player if each opposing player's movement ended with the Shadow player next to the opposing player about to move.

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One of my favourite recent BB games had my opponent's two Assassins chasing my Snotlings around the pitch. I would frequently run then up next to my Ogres and then move again so that to follow up the Shadow would put them next to the Ogre. It was interesting as he normally did it. I think he took out 2 Ogres from this game until they got flattened by this exchange of tactics.


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Post by Jural »

GalakStarscraper wrote:
One of my favourite recent BB games had my opponent's two Assassins chasing my Snotlings around the pitch. I would frequently run then up next to my Ogres and then move again so that to follow up the Shadow would put them next to the Ogre. It was interesting as he normally did it...
I don't know if he was being tactical... More than likly he was just thrilled that someone with low MA was dodging away from the assassin to begin with, thus allowing him to use the skill!

I have played with assassins a bit and never been able to succeed use the skill (and I only tried to use it twice)... although I did have a gutter run leap away from an assassin once, fail his jump, fail on the re-roll and KO himself. Maybe he was afraid of the shadowing?

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