What is a Big Guy?

[Grumbledook]

tbh norse and amazon aren't really 3rd edition anyway, just like lizards, necro, khemri, vamps, nurgle, elves etc

[PercyTheTroll]

I'd suggest moving away from the standard Human list and building something new and more generic.

0-16 Linemen
0-4 Blitzers
0-4 Blockers
0-2 Catchers
0-2 Throwers/Runners
0-2 Specials
0-1 Big Guy

Specials would be any player that's not a 0-16 type but isn't clearly any other positional. I'm thinking of DE assassins and WEs, secret weapons and so on. You may want to change the limits based on the composition of your teams of course, if you have very few teams with blockers then make them 0-2 and increase the catchers or whatever.

[Xeterog]

if you do a batting order, then don't reset the batting order each turn, begin the next turn with the next player in line..just like in base ball. If you did this, then your Mino would at least occasionally have gone before the TG.

[JPS]

@xeterog - we did exactly that in the second Pro Bowl game. We also allow players to delay their actions, so they can't go before their roster spot comes up, but they can go later in the turn than their roster spot. The roster order is random, so if a Thrower was slotted after a Catcher, that Catcher might always be on the ground when the Thrower wanted to pass to him. By delaying his turn, the Thrower could wait for the Catcher to stand up first and then be able to pass to him.

Because of "delaying," when everybody is cooperating, everybody delays once through the order and then the team can go in any order it wants. It's only when one or more coaches are not cooperating, that the order matters. And since everybody cooperated throughout the entire second Pro Bowl (probably because it was a close game - it ended tied) we never had a chance to really test it.

- JPS

[JPS]

Here's an excel sheet with the full positional breakdown we used for the Pro Bowl.

Workbook1.xls

@Raveen
I like your set up there. I would probably drop Blitzers and Blockers to 0-2 each. I might also make Runners their own 0-2 position if we went this route, but there might not be enough to make it worth it. Dwarf "Blockers" would still be considered linemen, though, because they are a 0-16 positional on their team list. (And I still believe in Longbeards and Ulfwereners, whatever anyone else calls them!)

- JPS