Pro ?????

[DoubleSkulls]

Isn't there a FAQ saying Pro can be used on Thick Skull?

[Duke Jan]

Its not the LRB 3 FAQ.

[Dr. Doom]

Im pretty sure that you can Pro a TS. Im also sure taht galak confirmed that somewhere over at BB.com.

[nick_nameless]

bumping...

So, in LRB6, can Pro be used to reroll a Regeneration roll?

[lunchmoney]

bumping...

So, in LRB6, can Pro be used to reroll a Regeneration roll?

Necro-threading at its best

Regeneration (Extraordinary)
If the player suffers a Casualty result on the Injury table, then roll a D6 for
Regeneration after the roll on the Casualty table and after any
Apothecary roll, if allowed. On a result of 1-3, the player suffers the result
of this injury. On a 4-6, the player will heal the injury after a short period
of time to 're-organise' himself, and is placed in the Reserves box
instead. Regeneration rolls may not be re-rolled. Note that an opposing
player still earns Star Player points as normal for inflicting a Casualty
result on a player with this skill, even if the result doesn't affect the player
in the normal way..

My bold. No you cant use Pro to reroll Regen. Nice try

If you want to RR a regen you need an Igor.

[nick_nameless]

bumping...

So, in LRB6, can Pro be used to reroll a Regeneration roll?

Necro-threading at its best

Regeneration (Extraordinary)
If the player suffers a Casualty result on the Injury table, then roll a D6 for
Regeneration after the roll on the Casualty table and after any
Apothecary roll, if allowed. On a result of 1-3, the player suffers the result
of this injury. On a 4-6, the player will heal the injury after a short period
of time to 're-organise' himself, and is placed in the Reserves box
instead. Regeneration rolls may not be re-rolled. Note that an opposing
player still earns Star Player points as normal for inflicting a Casualty
result on a player with this skill, even if the result doesn't affect the player
in the normal way..

My bold. No you cant use Pro to reroll Regen. Nice try

If you want to RR a regen you need an Igor.

My eyes somehow skipped over that line. I swear I read the rule before asking

[Scally09]

am I reading the right description of Thick Skull?

Quote (pg.68 CRP) THICK SKULL,
'The player treats a roll of 8 on the Injury table, after any modifiers have been applied, as a Stunned result rather than a KO'd result. This skill may be used even if the player is Prone or Stunned.'

How do you expect to Re-Roll that with Pro when;

A) Armour and Injury rolls aren't Re-Roll-able (without Pilling On)

B) It's not a roll that you make. Your opponent should roll to break your Armour and roll your Injury.

It seems to me that Thick Skull is more of a roll-modifier than a Re-Roll skill.

[Greyhound]

This is a necro of the old rule where thick skull used to be a roll.

[James_Probert]

this is a 2005 thread...

necroed wrt regen

in those days, TS was a 4+ to ignore KO in favour of stun, so it was a valid Q at the time

[Pagan]

Funny, I was so confused trying to figure out how this was in question before I noticed the year.

Regeneration rolls may not be re-rolled.

To play Devil's Advocate, what allows Igor to circumvent this? Shouldn't the Regeneration skill differentiate between a TRR, Pro, whatever not being able to but allowing Igor to?

[James_Probert]

To play Devil's Advocate, what allows Igor to circumvent this? Shouldn't the Regeneration skill differentiate between a TRR, Pro, whatever not being able to but allowing Igor to?

Erm, the fact that the Igor rules SPECIFICLY state that the ONLY use of an Igor is to re-roll a failed regeneration roll.

[Pagan]

Erm, the fact that the Igor rules SPECIFICLY state that the ONLY use of an Igor is to re-roll a failed regeneration roll.

Yes, but I also have a rule that says it cannot be rerolled. Igor tries to but the Regen skill says no rerolling it. Pro is used to reroll a die the same as Igor, so it should work if Igor does.

Igor can claim he is allowed to reroll the die all he wants, but the skill says no using anything to reroll this die. Deny permissions always overrule.

[alternat]

neither injury rolls can be rerolled, but apo can do.
I see no point in this discussion.

[Xeterog]

Erm, the fact that the Igor rules SPECIFICLY state that the ONLY use of an Igor is to re-roll a failed regeneration roll.

Yes, but I also have a rule that says it cannot be rerolled. Igor tries to but the Regen skill says no rerolling it. Pro is used to reroll a die the same as Igor, so it should work if Igor does.

Igor can claim he is allowed to reroll the die all he wants, but the skill says no using anything to reroll this die. Deny permissions always overrule.

no, specific rules over-rule. The General rule is that you can't RR a regen roll. Pro does not negate this general rule, as it does not specifically say that it can RR a regen roll. Igor specifically says you can use him to RR the regen roll, thus you can RR with an IGOR. If some other rule states that it can RR a regen roll (say a card or something else), then it overrides the general rule that you cannot RR a regen roll.