Ball Throw In (tricky Angle question included)

[ssb]

Hello,

A small question on throw in

In the LRB it is said that when the ball scatters of the pitch :
1- You put the template next to the sideline. Next to the square that was the last square the ball was ni before getting off the pitch.
2- You throw a dice for direction, then 2 dices for distance
3- You count the throw in from the ball drawn on the template. If it falls on an empty square, it scatters.

I have a question on point 1 and 3.

Point 1 ==> No ambiguity here. If the balls goes out in a diagonal, then the last square is not in front of the hypothetical outside square.

..|
1|
..|____
..|
2| ball
..|____
..|
3|
..|

==> The ball will be thrown back from the "ball" square even if it went out diagonally in 1 or 3. If it came in a perpendicular way (2) then it is the same thing.

Right or wrong ?

Point 3 ==> The LRB says you count from the drawn ball on the throw in template

Let's make a schematic :

...A B C D E F G H I J K L
1|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
2|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
3|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
4|X|_|o|o|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
5|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
6|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
7|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
8|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|

The ball went out in A4, the 2d6 did a result of 3 in the perpendicular direction (3-4 for the direction)
1) The ball goes in C4 ==> you count 3 squares this way : A4 + B4 + C4
2) The ball goes in D4 ==> you count 3 squares this way : B4 + C4 + D4

Which one is the right one ?

Last question...
If the ball goes out diagonaly in one of the angle of the pitch ? (the pitch has obviously 4 angles)

Let's make a schematic :

X __________________
..|X|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
..|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
..|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
..|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
..|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
..|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
..|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
..|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|

How do you determine the throw in ?
1 You determine randomly which side the ball went out ? (1-3 right, 4-6 down for example ?) Then resolve the throw in...
2 You can simplify and throw in directly in the 3 directions ? (1-2 right, 3-4 diagonaly, 5-6 down)

Which one would you use ?


Thanks for the answers !

[Darkson]

Point 1: Correct

Point 3: 1. C4

On the diagonal, there isn't a special rule. Officially, you do the normal and line the throw-in template along one of the edges. Unofficially, most people I know place it at an angle, just to save time.
In a league, make a house rule and stick to it; at a tournament, speak to your opponent before the game starts.

[Smurf]

It doesn't matter the odds are the same. All that would happen is the ball may travel to a corner. For the sake of simplicity just rule that it is thown in from the touchdown zone side.

[Xeterog]

Might be that I'm tired..but wouldn't point 3 be D4..as you count from the ball square, not starting with the ball square. bah., let me look it up.. nope, you were right. the example shows it in the picture (though the picture is not described.. you see the template placed, a roll of 3 for direction and 4 for distand..and the ball is on the 4th square from the sideline..the last square of the Wide zone. (picture is on page 3 of the rule book).

[Dr. Von Richten]

On the corner, most people I know use the following:

roll D6
1-2: it goes across the endzone.
3-4: it goes diagonal.
5-6: it goes along the sideline.

[ssb]

That is all I have to say 'bout this !

[sann0638]

Nicked the template for the clarifications document.