treeman

Kri · Post by **Kri** » Sat Nov 30, 2002 1:16 pm

Isn´t accurate better than pass?

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Nov 30, 2002 1:19 pm

generally but the reroll for pass is more useful to try and maybe hit a 6 on the dice cause with ag1 you generally are going to need a high number and can fumble passes easily that a +1 won't help with and they can't use team rerolls.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Sat Nov 30, 2002 2:46 pm

Thadrin wrote:I <b><u>HATE</b></u> the change to the treeman standing rule.
Sure the problem should affect all players under MA3. Fine. But the problem should be a racial char for the Treeman. I just don't see them as being flexible...which I think was the point of the rule in the first place wasn't it?

Back on topic...Pass on a Halfling team, Dodge if not.

Actually Thradrin, I like the rules. I think the whole assisting him standing was fluff that a basic rule handling easily covers. Just my opinion.

Galak

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Sat Nov 30, 2002 2:50 pm

Kri wrote:Isn´t accurate better than pass?

Actually here no, because accurate cannot be used with Throw Team Mate so Pass is the better skill. The only skills usable with Throw Team Mate currently are Pro, Leader, and Pass.

Galak

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:23 pm

Is leader reroll treated differently from a team reroll then, I always assumed that it just meant you got an extra team reroll.

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:38 pm

Leader RRs are only available while leader is on the pitch (unless they have changed the rule, but that's how it used to be).

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:48 pm

i meant with regard to how the reroll gets used, Galak said that leader can be used with throw team mate, but big guys can't use rerolls

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:56 pm

Grumbledook wrote:i meant with regard to how the reroll gets used, Galak said that leader can be used with throw team mate, but big guys can't use rerolls

It will be one of the Q&As answered by the review this year. Every league I've played in says that Big Guys can use Leader re-rolls. In fact the PBeM tool is programmed that way as well currently. IE Big Guys cannot use team but can use Leader rerolls. We also allow them to use Trophy re-rolls.

Galak

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sat Nov 30, 2002 10:21 pm

That does make sense since leader and trophy RRs are NOT team RRs, hence the different names.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Nov 30, 2002 11:35 pm

Well the leasder skill says its used in exactly the same way as as a team reroll counter, I think the word counter there is the bit that leads the confusion, guess we will find out soon.

Korhil · Post by **Korhil** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 4:43 am

Grumb... before it starts again, there are threads on if Leader RR's and the like are the same or different to Team RR's for this.

Dig them up if ya want to see it all.

---Korhil

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 5:08 am

Heh so i see, must have missed that last time round, still wasn't resolved though was it 6 of one half a dozen of the other. Wait for the bbrc.

Tamper Magnitude · Post by **Tamper Magnitude** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 3:37 pm

GalakStarscraper wrote:
Kri wrote:Isn´t accurate better than pass?
Actually here no, because accurate cannot be used with Throw Team Mate so Pass is the better skill. The only skills usable with Throw Team Mate currently are Pro, Leader, and Pass.

Galak

Thats gonna spoil someones fun with Hail Mary Pass

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 4:10 pm

Maybe the finalized Ogre roster will include a thrower and Strong Arm could get included on that list.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 4:35 pm

Well, at BBC, the consensus has always been that leader rerolls and trophy rerolls are treated the same way as team rerolls, and that's what we put in the Oberwald.