Blitz and Fanatic Invasion Q's

[GalakStarscraper]

My thoughts on the Fanatic Invasion.

If the opposing coach is moving the player ... its an opposing player and you'd get CAS points. If you are moving the Fanatic ... and kill it running it into one of your own guys ... not an opposing player ... no CAS points.

That would be how I would rule it.

Galak

[Buggrit]

Cheers Galak
Happy Happy Joy Joy, Gobbo Splatting Troll

[Snew]

He didn't score. He picked up the ball where it scattered forgetting that it's just marking the square it will come down in after the Kick off table results are resolved.

I know, that's why he won't get the SPP for it and I've modified the end score as a result of this. Although it won't affect the overall result, just the number of TD's I scored. 3-1 instead of 4-1.

I know you knew. I was answering Cramy.

[Cramy]

OK, I'm really missing something then.

LRB5 says:

Touchdowns (TD): A player who scores a touchdown earns 3
Star Player points.

SCORING TOUCHDOWNS IN YOUR TURN
A team scores a touchdown during their turn when one of their
players is standing in the opposing team’s End Zone while
holding the ball at the end of any of your players' Actions. As
soon as this happens, play stops, the crowd cheers and whistles
and cheerleaders dance about waving pom-poms. The coach of
the scoring team has our permission to leap about and cheer a
bit too, while moving the score marker one space along the
scoring track on the Playing Pitch.

The gobbo, standing in the EZ with the ball in his hands, scored a TD, right? A TD was scored, and the gobbo is the one who caused the TD as he had the ball in his hands.

I'm not arguing what is being said here. I just want to understand where the logic comes from. I just don't see it.

[fen]

The Goblin is not getting the SPPs because he scored a TD in an illegal manner. The TD is being stricken from the record.

He picked up the ball during the Blitz! Turn, and the ball cannot be picked up then because it's still 'in the air'.

As stated earlier, the only way to score directly from a Blitz! Turn is if the ball is landing in the End Zone and you manage to get a player underneath it to catch it.

[Snew]

Let's try this:

After both teams have set up, follow this
sequence in the order below:
• Place the ball on the pitch
• Scatter ball to determine where the ball is about to land
• Roll on the Kick-Off table
• Resolve the Kick-Off table result
• Bounce/ catch/or touchback the ball

I bolded the 2 pertinant parts of the sequence. During a Blitz the ball is not on the ground and it cannot be caught since it doesn not come down till after the KO table result is resolved.

Like it's been pointed out, the only way to score on a Blitz is for the ball to scatter into the endzone and one of the Blitzing team's players getting under it during the Blitz. If he can do that then delcare the Blitz over, the ball will come down and that player has a chance to catch it. If he does does catch it and as soon as the opposing players turn starts you declare the TD and his turn is over.

Simple and clean huh?

Is it clear now?

[Igor Tahavanale]

You can't go wrong with this if you follow the sequence snew has pointed out.

As long as you remember that it is impossible for a team with a bonus blitz turn to handle the ball until the blitz turn has ended you can't go wrong.

[Cramy]

Hi guys,

I don't think I was clear with my question.

I understand the sequence. What I don't understand is why the Gobbo would not get any SPPs. He is standing in the EZ, the ball bounces on him, and he catches it. Snew and Igor both state that this is a TD, which matches the sequence, and I definitely agree to that. But does the Gobbo get SPPs? From the previous posts, I inferred that he would not.

If the TD is legal as described above, does the Gobbo get SPPs for the TD?

[Old Man Draco]

Yes! If the gobbo gt's the Ball in the EZ legally, he gets the SPP's.

But in the case of Buggrit, the player RAN the ball into the EZ and that is not allowed, so Buggrits gobbo does NOT get SPP's.

OK?

[Cramy]

Aaaahhh, I see the light. Turns out I understood this, just got completely confused in the discussion between what the rules say and what happened to Buggrit.

Thanks all.

[Snew]

Phew. I was really starting to fear for the future of Canada.

[Old Man Draco]

Finally I got through! There's always a first time!

[Snew]

Finally I got through! There's always a first time!

I'm sure this is an isolated incident. Don't let it go to your head.

[Old Man Draco]

I won't. This hurts bad enough as it is!

[Cramy]

The future of Canada ... shudder ...

As long as the US continues to buy our resources, Canada should be OK ... At least until we run out.