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I think the new TV system is great and it is also a lot easier to manage electronically. I like the fact that the old playcards have been reintroduced. They were fun in the old days, but they were also controlling the outcome of the game to much in my opinion. It's nice that all that there is so many options to take when you get inducement money, but noone in our league understood the petty cash system until explained here. It just doesn't make sense. Underdogs don't want to be overdogs, and overdogs don't want to grant extra inducements, so what should you're spare cash be used for anyway. I think that there should be some kind of limitation system just like in the old days....
Cramy wrote:From the number of inducements questions on this forum, I think that it is a bit too complicated. But I'll take the inducements instead of the handicaps any day.
Inducements are easy. JJ's idea of Petty Cash is where the complications occur .. an idea that he added after we'd finished the PBBL rules.
Galak
Yes, that's what I really ment. The inducements themselves are OK. It's the Petty Cash concept thrown-in that confuses things. And the inducements questions on this forum usually revolve around the transfer of Treasury to Petty Cash.
Cramy wrote:Yes, that's what I really ment. The inducements themselves are OK. It's the Petty Cash concept thrown-in that confuses things. And the inducements questions on this forum usually revolve around the transfer of Treasury to Petty Cash.
My original proposal to JJ for this was that only the Overdog could use Treasury money to purchase inducements and that this would add to the inducement cash the underdog received. A lot simpler system but it failed the logic test for him which was why the underdog would not be allowed to spend their money.
Galak
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As we are playing in our league, petty cash does not effect TV, it is rather "fictive" category. Money transfered from Treasury is still not used when calculating TV difference so maybe can be seen as "in transfer". Then overdog can purchase whatever he want and then we calculate TV difference.
Only rule which I found about TV states:
Work out the total value of the team and record it on the roster. The value of a team is worked out by adding up the value of the team’s players (including extra values for improvements), support staff, team re-rolls, and Fan Factor. Do not include the value of gold in your treasury or any players that will be forced to miss their next match due to
injury.
2. Transfer Gold from Treasury to Petty Cash
Both teams at this point may transfer gold pieces from their team
treasury into petty cash. Petty cash may be used during the
current match to purchase inducements and adds directly to the
team value of the team for this match. The team with the highest
team value must declare how much gold he is transferring into
petty cash first.
DamianTheLost wrote: It just doesn't make sense. Underdogs don't want to be overdogs, and overdogs don't want to grant extra inducements, so what should you're spare cash be used for anyway. I think that there should be some kind of limitation system just like in the old days....
That's the part I think is so stupid.
Galak wrote:but it failed the logic test for him (JJ)
I ignore logic in BB, ever since I tried to figure out the sequence for an interception. I just play by the rules, and forget about understanding the logic sometimes.
There is also the no-inducement games (tournament finals etc) where petty cash becomes more significant as both teams can save up & spend.
I think people remember LRB4 as well where cash counted to TR so spending it in a game was already factored into the handicaps. Since cash doesn't count for TV it does need to be factored into the handicap system if used.
Petty cash for the underdog is counter intuitive for most people but does make a twisted sort of sense. I mean if you have a TV100 & TV110 team - but the TV100 has enough cash to freeboot Morg then they really are a much more powerful team so the other gets compensated.
ianwilliams wrote:There is also the no-inducement games (tournament finals etc) where petty cash becomes more significant as both teams can save up & spend.
I think people remember LRB4 as well where cash counted to TR so spending it in a game was already factored into the handicaps. Since cash doesn't count for TV it does need to be factored into the handicap system if used.
Petty cash for the underdog is counter intuitive for most people but does make a twisted sort of sense. I mean if you have a TV100 & TV110 team - but the TV100 has enough cash to freeboot Morg then they really are a much more powerful team so the other gets compensated.
Good post Ian ... I think that last paragraph makes a lot of sense.
Galak
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JJ and logic?!? 
