BBRC Hot List - 2003

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 4:30 pm

neoliminal wrote:This all seems like a clarification to the push back rules and not for specific skills, IMO.

But we can't talk about the advanced rules there can we?

neoliminal · Post by **neoliminal** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 4:38 pm

No, you can't talk about advanced rules there, but you can make it clear how to handle the pushing should it occure...

For example, "...if all the squares are occupied, the moving team's coach picks one. Treat this player as if he had gotten a push back result from the original target. In a crowded scrum this may result in several players bouncing into one another."

mrinprophet · Post by **mrinprophet** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 4:57 pm

I really don't want to sound like an arse, but I'd love for the leader reroll language to be cleaned up in the next rules review. I posted a question on it a while back viewtopic.php?t=6729 , but didn't feel like there was consensus on the answer. I understand Galak's ruling, I'd just like it to be clarified in the wording of the skill. I scanned Galak's list on his site and didn't see it on the list (I realize that he has a mountain of things to do given work, mbbl, mbbl2, and Gencon). Just thought it might help us all if a position was taken, and then clearly articulated in the rules. Many thanks.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 5:02 pm

I'll get JKL's pushback restatement and the Leader reroll in OT both on the list as soon as I can.

Galak

neoliminal · Post by **neoliminal** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 10:32 pm

GalakStarscraper wrote:I'll get JKL's pushback restatement and the Leader reroll in OT both on the list as soon as I can.

Galak

Just to be clear, mine is just an example

I haven't actually looked over the original text when crafting it. Just making a point about where I think the correction should be made.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 10:25 am

neoliminal wrote:For example, "...if all the squares are occupied, the moving team's coach picks one. Treat this player as if he had gotten a push back result from the original target. In a crowded scrum this may result in several players bouncing into one another."

You'd still have to reword Stand Firm as it quite explicitly refers to being blocked - and to handle what happens if another player is pushed into a SF player.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 11:41 am

ianwilliams wrote:
neoliminal wrote:For example, "...if all the squares are occupied, the moving team's coach picks one. Treat this player as if he had gotten a push back result from the original target. In a crowded scrum this may result in several players bouncing into one another."
You'd still have to reword Stand Firm as it quite explicitly refers to being blocked - and to handle what happens if another player is pushed into a SF player.

Hmmmm .... okay you could alter Neo wording to say that a secondary pushback is treated as having been blocked. And the Advanced rule section does kinda hamstring this fix ..... (of course I for one want very much to see the Advanced section deleted).

Galak

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 11:54 am

Use something like Neos wording for secondary push backs

e.g. "A secondary pushback is treated exactly like a normal pushback as if the second player had been blocked by the first"

Then Stand Firm

e.g. "If a player is pushed back into a player with Stand Firm then neither player moves"

Thankfully you can choose not to use SF, otherwise I could see some very beardy applications of this.

High & Mighty · Post by **High & Mighty** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 2:14 pm

I've got one possible addition to the list.

Perhaps I just missed it because I thought it already got clarified, but with the Iron Man handicap, after armour is broken, is the player automatically stunned, or does the blocker still get a chance for the casualty?

Perhaps adding something to the effect of "If an opposing player beats his armour roll, treat any injury roll as if the player has been stunned."

Last years review covered the poison dagger/iron man tandem, but I could have sworn there was something about this.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 2:35 pm

High & Mighty wrote:Perhaps I just missed it because I thought it already got clarified, but with the Iron Man handicap, after armour is broken, is the player automatically stunned, or does the blocker still get a chance for the casualty?

This was answered ... wish I could find it quickly.

You never roll for the injury roll if a player has Iron Man. You just place him Stunned. Since you never roll for injury, there is no chance for a casualty.

Galak

High & Mighty · Post by **High & Mighty** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 6:19 pm

GalakStarscraper wrote: You never roll for the injury roll if a player has Iron Man. You just place him Stunned. Since you never roll for injury, there is no chance for a casualty.

Galak

Thanks. In that case it's worded just fine. Guess I'm just going crazy.

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 9:09 pm

The Chaos Cup trophy is supposed to give the winning team a handicap against every opponent until the next Chaos Cup game.

What happens if both teams get the "Pick the weather" handicap?

Post by **Dave** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 9:15 pm

Skummy wrote:
What happens if both teams get the "Pick the weather" handicap?

you just had this problem don't you??

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 9:17 pm

No, but I've held the Chaos cup for about 9 months, and have occasionally wondered what the answer would be.

I usually just get extra cheerleaders out of it.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:55 pm

ok a wild animal starts their turn standing next to a fanatic, which of course can never be blocked

what the hell happens?!