Leader reroll and big guy

Tekoda · Post by **Tekoda** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:34 pm

I saw in some thread that big guy can use a leader reroll. Do the big guy have to be the guy with the leader trait to use it or he can use the leader reroll even if he is not the player with leader

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:43 pm

The Big Guy can use the Leader Re-roll just like everyone else could, even if he himself is not the Leader.

Tekoda · Post by **Tekoda** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:29 pm

Thank you for your quick response.

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:18 am

just a question... the leader reroll " carrier " has to be on the gamefield to use the leaderreroll on a BigGuy, right ?

Traveller

Kheldar · Post by **Kheldar** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:24 am

Right

Post by **Old Man Draco** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:13 am

traveller wrote:just a question... the leader reroll " carrier " has to be on the gamefield to use the leaderreroll on a BigGuy, right ?

Traveller

Totally right. It does not matter if he is standing or not, as long as he is on the pitch and not in the dug out!

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:46 pm

The LRB states Standing or Prone. I read that as supposed to exclude Stunned.

Post by **Old Man Draco** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:02 pm

Yeah, but it also says when he is on the field. this implies that if a player is stunned he would not be on the field. This needs textual clarification. Hot list 2004?

Kheldar · Post by **Kheldar** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:40 am

Why does it imply that?

The counter is used in exactly the same way as a Team Re-roll
counter, but it may only be used if a player with the Leader skill is on the playing field (standing or prone) at the time the counter is used.

Its just an AND he is on the field AND (Standing or Prone).

It's like he is on the field AND NOT Stunned.

Nowhere is standing that a stunned player isn't on the field.

vtdoogie · Post by **vtdoogie** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:36 pm

Quick Note:
If you are stunned, then are you not prone on the field, just face down?

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:08 pm

never expected such a discussion about words and meanings after my question!

Traveller

passengerpigeon · Post by **passengerpigeon** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:43 pm

vtdoogie wrote:Quick Note:
If you are stunned, then are you not prone on the field, just face down?

1. prone is used as a technical term in blood bowl to denote "down but not stunned."

2. if being stunned on the field also counted, there would be no reason to put "standing or prone" in the description of the skill, since any time the player was on the field at all he would count.

3. it doesn't matter all that much, really, because there are very few ways to end up with a stunned player on your turn and not turn over. I can think of three (wizards, ttm, ofab).

--p

ScottyBoneman · Post by **ScottyBoneman** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:48 pm

passengerpigeon wrote:
vtdoogie wrote:Quick Note:
If you are stunned, then are you not prone on the field, just face down?
1. prone is used as a technical term in blood bowl to denote "down but not stunned."

2. if being stunned on the field also counted, there would be no reason to put "standing or prone" in the description of the skill, since any time the player was on the field at all he would count.

3. it doesn't matter all that much, really, because there are very few ways to end up with a stunned player on your turn and not turn over. I can think of three (wizards, ttm, ofab).

--p

Would matter quite a bit depending on what Wild Animal rule you are using. If they go first, its before turning over a stunned leader.

mikeyc222 · Post by **mikeyc222** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:11 pm

"may only be used if a player with the Leader skill is on the playing field" i really think this is the key part of the phrase. i think they only added the "standing or prone" part to say that the player didn't have to be JUST standing. but that's just my opinion.

Baron Ollie · Post by **Baron Ollie** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:44 pm

If a BG cannot use a regular team reroll but is allowed to use a leader reroll, does that mean you can pick and choose whether or not you would like to use the leader reroll in every situation, in an effort to "save it" for the BG?