If Throwing a Team Mate is a Pass Action...

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:42 am

do Big Guys get a completition then if the little fellow lands on his feet ?

(I vote for YES, sure, of course absolutely.

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Dragoonkin · Post by **Dragoonkin** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:49 am

I posted in the other thread about this, but I'll put it here too. (Plus re-reading the skill description gave me another reason to support my opinion.

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Two reasons why I don't think you should/do get SPPs for TTM:

1.) TTM seems like a replacement for your Pass, not an "actual" Pass.

2.) You can TTM someone who's NOT holding the ball.

Once again, my opinion, not an actual "rule".

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:59 am

I think of "rewarding a cool action"

Post by **Thadrin** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 6:39 am

I agree with both of you...They don't get SPPs, but they SHOULD.

Acerak · Post by **Acerak** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 2:31 pm

If you think they should get SPPs, house rule it! Sounds like fun. I'd simply remember to give them the completion only if the following apply:

1. The pass is accurate.
2. The little guy is carrying the ball.
3. The little guy lands on his feet.

All of those simulate the difficulty of throwing a pass with the ball.

Cheers!

-Chet

Post by **Thadrin** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 3:09 pm

Doesn't bother me enough to try and persuade our commish to do so.

BUT I think if the Big Guy accurately throws the little guy (accurate pass) and the little guy lands (catch) thats enough....I don't think the ball need be involved in this - lets face it - rare event....but only 1 SPP same as a completed pass normally is.

SBG · Post by **SBG** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 3:13 pm

I agrre with Thadrin : even if the guy doesn't hold the ball, if he was accurately thrown and landed properly, they should get 1 SPP. I will submit this to my league !

Fred

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 7:06 pm

Nope.

The Throw must not be Accurate. (Remember a Treeman's agility ? 1)

The only thing required is a safe landing.
However, the litle guy must carry the Ball, because else theres no risk and we have flying gobos for SPP all the time which could be strange.

Acerak · Post by **Acerak** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 7:20 pm

SPPs in Blood Bowl hinge upon a successful roll or action by the player who is awarded the SPPs. Toby, your suggestion is a little backwards, because the SPPs are awarded based almost entirely on the landing player's roll.

But hey, it's your league. Have fun

-Chet

Post by **Thadrin** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:45 pm

Toby wrote:Nope.
However, the litle guy must carry the Ball, because else theres no risk and we have flying gobos for SPP all the time which could be strange.

Hell, if some idiot Stunty player wants to waste that ST5 guy on hurling players downfield who have a better chance of ending up in the casualty box than in the endzone just for the SPPs thats fine by me.

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 11:11 pm

Acerak wrote:SPPs in Blood Bowl hinge upon a successful roll or action by the player who is awarded the SPPs. Toby, your suggestion is a little backwards, because the SPPs are awarded based almost entirely on the landing player's roll.

But hey, it's your league. Have fun

-Chet

Chet show a little flexibility will you ?

The SPP is awarded for the show the ballista team delivers !
Give them both a SPP agreed ?

After all the main diffrence betweeen Big Guys and Stars is Big Guys can collect SPPs, so give them the opportunity. The little folk dies all the time anyways, doesnt matter if they break their neck at 4 or 5 SPPs.

Thadrin wrote:
Toby wrote:Nope.
However, the litle guy must carry the Ball, because else theres no risk and we have flying gobos for SPP all the time which could be strange.
Hell, if some idiot Stunty player wants to waste that ST5 guy on hurling players downfield who have a better chance of ending up in the casualty box than in the endzone just for the SPPs thats fine by me.

You are right man. Since it is an Pass and an Action there is reason enough not to use Throw Team Mate. If a Halfling falls over he faces Armour 6 and +1 to the injury roll.

I say on a safe Landing: 1 SPP for the Throw, 1 SPP for the Landing

Chet u hear us ? No lame house rule, time to update the LRB with some good stuff

Acerak · Post by **Acerak** » Tue Aug 13, 2002 3:13 am

Heh. To quote myself elsewhere, "No."

Seriously, though, I'd consider TTM on a player who had the ball, accurate pass, safe landing - I'd consider giving an SPP for that. But I don't want to see Treemen picking up Halflings just because they can't blitz anybody and no one on there team has the ball anyway. Just not gonna happen.

-Chet

Furelli · Post by **Furelli** » Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:12 am

Well said Chet.
If SPP's are going to be given for actions they should TRY and mirror the situations that currently exist.

ie. Completion is Accurate Pass of the ball that is caught - 1 SPP
so TTM should be Accurate Pass of the little guy with the ball and a successful landing to mimic the catch - 1 SPP

Furelli.

P.S. Actually that is exactly what Chet said.

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Tue Aug 13, 2002 12:59 pm

No No No No.

It should be ANY Pass that is caught by a ANY Player of your own Team.
(Accurate Pass, Missed Pass, Hail Marry Pass / Catch, Diving Catch)

Any THROW that is followed by a safe landing.

Dragoonkin · Post by **Dragoonkin** » Tue Aug 13, 2002 1:59 pm

Did I miss when someone put Toby in charge of the BBRC? Anybody?

Just wondering.

The demands of "It SHOULD be THIS WAY not THAT WAY because I SAY SO and we play it like that here" are getting old.