About stripball

Coach Alex · Post by **Coach Alex** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:26 pm

Hey guys, I was wondering if pusing back someone after a block because of his dodge skill was considered as a push back result elligible for a stripball ?

I think it's obvious it doesn't apply on block result, but that case is somehow a little more ambiguious (although I think it IS elligible for a stripball).

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:33 pm

I think so. Definitely so in PBBL.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:44 pm

LRB 4.0 p.34 wrote:3. Some skills refer to pushing a player back in order to work. These skills will work as long as you roll a push back on the Blocking dice.

and

LRB 4.0 p.11 wrote:(When talking about the Pow/! result]Unless the defender has the Dodge skill he is pushed back and then knocked over. If he does have the Dodge skill then he is only pushed back. The attacking player may follow up the defender.

Pretty clear from that imo

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:59 pm

You are correct in thinking that the skull/POW result will not allow you to use your Strip Ball skill.

Strider_fr · Post by **Strider_fr** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:27 pm

The answers above are correct. It is even clearer in PBBL :

Some skills refer to pushing a player back in order to work.
These skills will work as long as you roll a result of â€˜Pushedâ€™,
â€˜Defender Stumblesâ€™, or â€˜Defender Downâ€™ on the Blocking dice.

Ziggi Abschuss · Post by **Ziggi Abschuss** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:04 am

This is confusing me

So I'll make a little table to see if I have it right:

Code: Select all

block result           result with strip ball unless sure hands
skull                  attacker down (no strip ball)
skull pow              both down unless block (no strip ball)
pushback               strip ball unless sure hands
push back/POW          defender down unless dodge, then strip ball unless sure hands
POW                    defender down (no need for strip ball)

Is that right?

Ziggi

Mootaz · Post by **Mootaz** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:11 am

yes it is.

Duke Jan · Post by **Duke Jan** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:12 am

100% correct Ziggi

Strip ball can be used if the dice come up pushback, pushback-pow or pow. Of course if the defender goes down strip ball doesn't really matter.

Lofwyr · Post by **Lofwyr** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:58 pm

With the PBBL-skill "juggernaut" you can use strip ball even with the both down result (if it was a blitz, but to be honest: how often do you blitz the ball carrier and how often can you really block him?)

Tobi

Coach Alex · Post by **Coach Alex** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:20 pm

Ziggi Abschuss wrote:
Code: Select all
block result           result with strip ball unless sure hands

Even that is true ? I mean ... there is no push back action

Mootaz · Post by **Mootaz** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:24 pm

Coach Alex wrote:
Ziggi Abschuss wrote:
Code: Select all
block result           result with strip ball unless sure hands
Even that is true ? I mean ... there is no push back action

You misread his table. The first row is the table headers. So "block result" does not mean "both down" but is just the header to indicate that this column contains the block results

Coach Alex · Post by **Coach Alex** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:28 pm

Yeah, pretty stupid mistake since the both down result is indicated in the third row.

Well, thanks anyway.