hand-off question

sympatico · Post by **sympatico** » Sun May 07, 2006 10:23 pm

what happens if during my turn a bouncing ball is caught by a player on my team who has already moved and I want him to hand it off to a player that hasnÂ´t moved who is standing next to him. Am I allowed to do so?

shagga · Post by **shagga** » Sun May 07, 2006 11:00 pm

I believe not. If a player has already committed an action they cannot handoff.

mlindsay2706 · Post by **mlindsay2706** » Sun May 07, 2006 11:17 pm

doubt it. hand off is treated as a pass. as you've already used that player, you cant use another action. so no.

Mad Jackal · Post by **Mad Jackal** » Mon May 08, 2006 4:25 am

Most assuredly not. A player must activate and declare a hand off action to be able to hand the ball off now. (3rd ed did not have this rule.)

As you stated the player who caught the ball had already acted, you are unfortunatelty out of luck as he can not activate again this turn.

sympatico · Post by **sympatico** » Mon May 08, 2006 9:16 am

thatÂ´s what I thought, but man is it frustrating, especially if by handing it off you could have scored like happened to me

TuernRedvenom · Post by **TuernRedvenom** » Mon May 08, 2006 9:27 am

I've seen people re-roll catching a bouncing ball because it was succesfully caught by a player which already moved...

Yavatol · Post by **Yavatol** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:23 am

There was a thread about those rerolls, and I doubt you can... (wasn't there something about only being allowed to reroll a *failed* roll)

Post by **Old Man Draco** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:28 am

You mean here?

viewtopic.php?t=19303

TuernRedvenom · Post by **TuernRedvenom** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:35 am

Draco wrote:You mean here?

viewtopic.php?t=19303

that thread only states that you can't use the re-roll for the catch skill to re-roll a succesful catch, says nothing about team rerolls. I think it's legal to re-roll a succesfull roll with a team reroll. eg how do you determine whether a block is a succesfull one? Sometimes you want to just push the guy and leave him standing for example.

Yavatol · Post by **Yavatol** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:41 am

That also depends if catching a bouncing ball counts as an action of the player (which is a prerequisite for using a team reroll).
Which it probably is, as you can reroll catches after a pass, at least that is what the rules intend.

Post by **Old Man Draco** » Mon May 08, 2006 11:08 am

Good point. As catching is NOT an action. (Not listed as action, so is not an action). But you still can use a reroll.

TuernRedvenom · Post by **TuernRedvenom** » Mon May 08, 2006 11:28 am

So I guess Pro could be used too to re-roll a succesfull catch.