Pushbacks?

Vesticle · Post by **Vesticle** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 3:28 pm

I know the rulebook says 'if all such squares are occupied by other players, then the player is pushed into an occupied square, and the player that originally occupied the square is pushed back in turn"

I'm curious what that means exactly, though. According to SkiJunkie's client, the players all get pushed back in a straight line, but I had always thought that it meant the player that gets pushed into an occupied square, pushes back the player he's pushed into, the same way as if that player just threw a block with a "pushback" result...

What's the official word?

Post by **Thadrin** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 4:23 pm

the second player is pushed back exactly as if he had been blocked by the pushed player. Same rules and restrictions apply.

khalev · Post by **khalev** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 4:35 pm

IMHO this is quite official.

1. The rulebook says "is pushed back in turn" so that is a push-back.

2. In some other thread someone more official than me said it that way (but don´t ask me which thread it was

)

But I´ve got another question regarding pushbacks:
if a player on the side gets pushed back, and all squares he could be pushed to are ocupied, do I have to push him off the field or may I push him into someone else?

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:01 pm

LRB 1.3 says

Players may only be pushed off the field if there are no eligible empty squares on the field.

So, if all other square are occupied you could (it doesn't say you have to) push him into the crowd.

A rather dirty trick could be to move a player to occupy a square on purpose, enabling a possible push back of the field. But... hey... 'fair play' is unknown to BB coaches.

Vesticle · Post by **Vesticle** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:26 pm

Nighthawk wrote:LRB 1.3 says
A rather dirty trick could be to move a player to occupy a square on purpose, enabling a possible push back of the field. But... hey... 'fair play' is unknown to BB coaches.

What's wrong with that? Don't leave your players on the sidelines. And it requires you to leave one of your own players on the sidelines then...

And I was just asking, because of the way Ski Junkie's client works. I guess it must be the house rules in his client then...

David

neverdodge · Post by **neverdodge** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:40 pm

check that one :

viewtopic.php?t=1697

hope it will help

Post by **Thadrin** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 8:16 pm

Playing against a Skaven team which had a Block/Dodge/sidestep GR I deliberately filled EVERY square he could possibly sidestep to so I could get him off the field. Perfectly legit tactic.

Beat this though: my opponet - Norse player - has his catcher on the sideline, three squares from my endzone. Out of reach of my blitz.
He does however hav a Blitzer stood beside him. I moved my runners into position beside the catcher, filling the "push zone" squares behind the Blitzer, blitzed the Blitzer, got the push, pushed him into the catcher, and as it was a straight ahead push the catcher had the old crowd, crowd or crowd choice.

I was proud of that bit of play.

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 7:18 am

I used a similar play to get rid of a Wardancer who was bugging me big time. As you can see you don't even have to block a player directly in order to push him into the waiting arms of the loving fans

Piepgrass · Post by **Piepgrass** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 9:43 am

the really wonderfull thing is when you are able to push both the player next to the sideline and the target into th ecrowd with a frenzy player

Admitted it doesnt happen often, but its hilarius when i can make it work

Poul

Vesticle · Post by **Vesticle** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 3:27 pm

My opponent once set his Bull Centaurs both next to each other, with one against the sidelines for some reason, and never got to move them, since he suffered a turnover before he could. So on my turn, I positioned a few players, and my Frenzied Dragon Warrior shoved them both out of bounds.

David