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... for each opposing player with Disturbing Presence...LRB5 page 23:tenwit wrote:The rules definitely say that you can choose not to (actively) use a skill, but there's nothing (that I can find) that says that you can "turn off" an always-on skill (trait, handicap, whatever). In every case that I can find in the LRB where you can use/not use a skill, "if used" is highlighted in red (e.g. dodge, block) or else there's an explicit out-clause (e.g. catch says "is allowed to re-roll..."). Skills that cannot be turned off don't have anything like that: Claw unconditionally breaks armour on 8+; Prehensile Tail imposes an unconditional -1 on dodges; and Disturbing Presence must cause fear and panic.
I think that it was you (GorTex) who said (over on the SG forums) that in BB, you have to look for rules that allow you to do something; everything that isn't explicitly allowed is implicitly forbidden.
SKILLS
This section of the rules includes lots more skills for players to use. The
specific rules for each skill can be found on pages 43 to 48. Each
entry also lists which category the skill belongs to (i.e. Passing, General,
Mutation, etc). A skill’s category effects which players can access it, as
described later on in the rules for Blood Bowl leagues (see pages 26 and
27). Unless otherwise stated in the skill description, the following
rules apply to all skills:
1. All bonuses/modifiers from skills can be combined.
2. All skills may be used an unlimited number of times per Action.
3. Some skills refer to pushing a player back in order to work. These
skills will work as long as you roll a result of ‘Pushed’, ‘Defender
Stumbles’, or ‘Defender Down’ on the Block dice.
4. Skill use is not mandatory.
5. You can choose to use a skill that affects a dice roll after rolling the
dice (e.g. Diving Tackle does not need to be used until after seeing
the result of the Dodge roll).
6. Only Extraordinary skills work when a player is Prone or Stunned.
Point 4. above indicates that the use of a skill is not mandatory. The Disturbing Presence skill description does not say anything about that skill use being mandatory.Disturbing Presence (Mutation)
This player's presence is very disturbing, whether it is caused by a
massive cloud of flies, sprays of soporific musk, an aura of random
chaos or intense cold, or a pheromone that causes fear and panic.
Regardless of the nature of this mutation, any player must subtract 1
from the D6 when they pass, intercept or catch for each opposing player
with Disturbing Presence that is within three squares of them, even if the
Disturbing Presence player is Prone or Stunned.
If your opponent blitzes your ball carrier, knocks it loose and then it bounces into the blitzing player's hands (or another player which has already taken an action) it's often best that he succeeds in catching it since there's no way to for him to get the ball to another player. It would be handy to turn off your dp skills at such a time.GorTex wrote:It is would be an exceptionally rare and contrived senarios where I would want to turn off Disturbing Presence...99.99999% of the time, I want my opponent to fail when passing, intercepting or catching a ball.
True..but doesn't this explicitly state you can use or not use any skill?tenwit wrote:
I think that it was you (GorTex) who said (over on the SG forums) that in BB, you have to look for rules that allow you to do something; everything that isn't explicitly allowed is implicitly forbidden.
of couse, this is 'unless otherwise stated'.4. Skill use is not mandatory
You can Choose not to use claw..say you hit a halfling..you want to break their armor on an 8+ or a 7+?tenwit wrote:Claw unconditionally breaks armour on 8+;
'...thick tail which he can use to trip...' looks like an enabling phrase you were talking about..but even if it did not have this, you could still choose not to use your tail (I'm sure there might be a reason you'd want to not try to trip up your opponent)...Prehensile Tail imposes an unconditional -1 on dodges;
no, nothing says it must be used.and Disturbing Presence must cause fear and panic.
Disturbing Presence (Mutation)
This player's presence is very disturbing, whether it is caused by a
massive cloud of flies, sprays of soporific musk, an aura of random
chaos or intense cold, or a pheromone that causes fear and panic.
Regardless of the nature of this mutation, any player must subtract 1
from the D6 when they pass, intercept or catch for each opposing player
with Disturbing Presence that is within three squares of them, even if the
Disturbing Presence player is Prone or Stunned.
Not really, since reservoirelves already pointed that out in the 3rd post of the thread, and the rest of the thread has been about wheter you can turn DP off or not.Meradanis wrote:Hey, that's funny. A pretty long discussion because no one checked the initial assumption. Good catch, Buggrit.
and I'm glad Tuern point out that instance where you might wnat to turn it off since I was having a very difficult time thinking of any.Darkson wrote:Not really, since reservoirelves already pointed that out in the 3rd post of the thread, and the rest of the thread has been about wheter you can turn DP off or not.Meradanis wrote:Hey, that's funny. A pretty long discussion because no one checked the initial assumption. Good catch, Buggrit.
