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Dropped Ball on Kickoff

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:25 pm
by Punkpogoer
I have a noob question. This happened in our BB league today and we are all new and couldn't find a definite answer.

On a kickoff if the ball lands in a square occuppied by the receiving team and they fail to pick it up, or on a "high kick" from the kickoff table, does that end the recieving teams turn?

And if the turn is over does the receiving team move the turn counter since he never actually got to that point?


Also a question about fouling; if a foul action was taken and for example on the armor roll the the fouling team rolled 12 would the offender be ejected before the injury roll is made?

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:28 pm
by Joemanji
The catch roll is made before the receiving team's turn begins, so no chance of turnover.

You still make an Inj roll, even if the AV roll results in a sending off.

Cheers :)
Joe

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:38 pm
by DoubleSkulls
As joe said, the catch is resolved before the receiving turn begins - that includes any subsequent bounces/catch attempts etc. If the ball at any point goes out of bounds or into the opponent's half its a touchback.

If there is a blitz then the catch is resolved after the blitz turn has completed.

For fouls, you keep rolling for injury etc even if sent off on the armour roll.

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:51 pm
by cyagen
A failed catch roll is never a turnover in itself, it is a turnover only if you had possession of the ball, threw/handed it off and failed the catch roll.

In that case the fact that you had the ball and it's now on the ground is the TO, not the failed catch roll.

I hope that I'm not messing that up....

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:53 pm
by Xeterog
cyagen wrote:A failed catch roll is never a turnover in itself, it is a turnover only if you had possession of the ball, threw/handed it off and failed the catch roll.

In that case the fact that you had the ball and it's now on the ground is the TO, not the failed catch roll.

I hope that I'm not messing that up....
well, you could fail the catch and not be a turnover -- as long as the ball ends up still in your possession and not on the ground or in the possession of an opposing player.

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:38 pm
by Punkpogoer
thanks for the clarification.