Blitzing nothing

fire olli · Post by **fire olli** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:39 pm

Do you have to make a block during the blitz action or can you waste the blitz to move (Wild animal)??????????

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:42 pm

You can elect not to throw a block on your blitz.

Daefaroth · Post by **Daefaroth** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:54 pm

For that matter:
You don't have to pass on a Pass Action.
You don't have to hand-off in a Hand-Off Action.
You don't have to move in a Move Action.
etc...

Of course, even if you don't actually roll the dice, if you declare a one a round action, it's gone.

stormsson · Post by **stormsson** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:45 pm

So, obviously, this tactic is a superb one when combined with a Rat Ogre whom can score!

Magictobe · Post by **Magictobe** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:22 pm

stormsson wrote:So, obviously, this tactic is a superb one when combined with a Rat Ogre whom can score!

In that case he is blitzing the audience behind the end zone. COOL!!

landrover · Post by **landrover** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:24 pm

Magictobe wrote:
stormsson wrote:So, obviously, this tactic is a superb one when combined with a Rat Ogre whom can score!
In that case he is blitzing the audience behind the end zone. COOL!!

Does he get beaten up by the crowd then?

Mad Jackal · Post by **Mad Jackal** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:36 pm

You may not score a touchdown if you leave the pitch.

So if said Mino is hitting some-one in the crowd and getting hurt himself, then no.

Pipey · Post by **Pipey** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:41 pm

fire olli wrote:Do you have to make a block during the blitz action or can you waste the blitz to move (Wild animal)??????????

This seems a bit 'gamey' to me y'know, even if the rules don't prohibit it...

Would it not be easy to say that a Wild Animal must attempt to make a block during a blitz action. A simple additional stipulation that would solve this quite elegantly IMO.

Has this been looked at by the rules committee?

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:00 pm

Pippy wrote:Has this been looked at by the rules committee?

Yes, at the same time as when WA got the +2 to WA for fouling, and they were trying to find a wording to make it so the WA had to foul if you declared it..
It was decided it was to complicated, and to unfair (say you burn a reroll on making a dodge, why force you to carry on the action if you decide it's to risky?)

Oh, and I disagree it's gamey. If my opponent wants to waste his turns blitz to move the WA, that's fine by me.

Ullis · Post by **Ullis** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:28 am

It could work like Bloodlust. If the WA doesn't get to block anything, he goes off to find somebody to beat up in the crowd.

But really, you mostly do this only in situations when you really have to move that Wild Animal, and those situations are rare enough. It's just an elegant way to use the rules to win.

fire olli · Post by **fire olli** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:47 pm

It happened to me at Toy Soldier this year. My Mino got the ball and then the other player moved all there players down the other end of the pitch. I didn't waste my blitz because i wasn't sure if you could or not so my Mino just had to stand there for a few turns until the end of the half.

darren woodward · Post by **darren woodward** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:33 pm

fire olli wrote:It happened to me at Toy Soldier this year. My Mino got the ball and then the other player moved all there players down the other end of the pitch. I didn't waste my blitz because i wasn't sure if you could or not so my Mino just had to stand there for a few turns until the end of the half.

i'd have let you burn the Blitz and move the Mino. There's nothing in the rules that says the opponent has to stick around and get mauled but neither does it say you can't blitz thin air

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:50 pm

It is always acceptable to declare a blitz and not throw a block. It's not usually very smart, but it is completely legal and sporting in the world of Blood Bowl.

If a league commisioner didn't like it, I would think long and hard about changing Wild Animal. It is a niche situation, and the rule works perfectly almost always... How many times does a Wild Animal use a blitz action as a move action in your leagues? IF he gets to blitz, he throws the block!

emeyin · Post by **emeyin** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:40 pm

Darkson wrote:
Pippy wrote:Has this been looked at by the rules committee?
Yes, at the same time as when WA got the +2 to WA for fouling, and they were trying to find a wording to make it so the WA had to foul if you declared it..
It was decided it was to complicated, and to unfair (say you burn a reroll on making a dodge, why force you to carry on the action if you decide it's to risky?)

Oh, and I disagree it's gamey. If my opponent wants to waste his turns blitz to move the WA, that's fine by me.

So it's technically legal to declare Foul on Wild Animal and it will only be a 2+ and then decide you don't want to Foul and then just move him somewhere else? Doing it this way would use up the teams Foul for the turn but sometimes you don't want to foul anyway. Looks like a loophole that could be exploited.

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:02 pm

Hi emeyin,
yes - under the rules Darkson described, that could have been legal.

But under LRB5 rules, Wild Animals are 2+ to blitz and block - 4+ to foul, so declaring sneaky fouls won't help you at all.

Cheers
Martin

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