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Passing ranges

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:25 pm
by Tripleskull
In another tread passing ranges came up. viewtopic.php?t=27355

I would like an official ruling on this matter. I have always though that the range was messured from the center on the squares, and the illustration in LRB indicates to me, that this is the intended rule. But I am not 100 % sure, and apparently someone has different oppinions. It would be wery nice with an official and unambiguos ruling.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:47 pm
by Grumbledook
[x] from middle of the throwers square

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:00 pm
by JaM
that little circle on the ruler should be on top of the player, wich should be in the center of the square.

So basically ^^ what he said.

Re: Passing ranges

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:13 pm
by zephard
Tripleskull wrote:In another tread passing ranges came up. viewtopic.php?t=27355

I would like an official ruling on this matter. I have always though that the range was messured from the center on the squares, and the illustration in LRB indicates to me, that this is the intended rule. But I am not 100 % sure, and apparently someone has different oppinions. It would be wery nice with an official and unambiguos ruling.
Triple, I keep telling my PBeM opponents that I placed the range ruler above the player and that its a quick pass everywhere. :orc:

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:21 pm
by Tripleskull
@Zephard

I dont understand your point? please explain it :D

Im not sure if the pass ruler in PbEM is correct, but you can surely only pass 6 squares on a quick pass. Which was the start of the debate.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:42 pm
by zephard
I place that pass ruler up to my screen, and look to where I want to pass. But my opponents say they can't see me pulling the pass ruler out of my Box and placing it up to my computer screen.

:lol:

The one in the tool gives you 3 squares straight out for quick passes.

Its been so long since I actually owned a pass ruler, I have forgotten almost what they look like.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:46 pm
by Tripleskull
hehe.

I ment short, if there should be doubt about that.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:06 pm
by Carnis
So could some one write up an official passrange help? What I've seen online that conflicts with the plastic ruler is this:

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T = thrower
13b
12bbbbb
11bbbbbbb
10LLLLbbbbb
09LLLLLLbbbb
08LLLLLLLbbbb
07SLLLLLLLbbb
06SSSSLLLLLbbb
05SSSSSLLLLLbb
04SSSSSSLLLLbbb
03QQSSSSSLLLLbb
02QQQSSSSLLLLbb
01QQQQSSSLLLLbb
00TQQQSSSSLLLbbb
So could we have an "official" square-by-square reference chart showing the correct pass ranges. The other one is even bigger, with 7x3 showing as short..

I know that one is not too easy to read, but I couldn't paste the original as it was a picture, and the link to the table had died :p.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:23 pm
by Der_Doodle
Havent checked the different tools.
But when i place my range ruler over the center of the square the 7th square away from the thrower is clearly not[\b] complete under the short pass range. So it must count as long pass since you aleays have to take the longer range if a square is not complete under the rangep

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:56 am
by DoubleSkulls
7 is a long pass. There was a BBRC endorsed table on the specialist games website which showed this. Galak presumably still has a copy somewhere.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:42 pm
by Podfrey
It WAS on the GW website but it appears to have been taken down (!?).

Here it is then......

http://www.enos.ltd.uk/Downloads/Lose-o-graph.pdf (please note: copyright is GWs)

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:29 pm
by JaM
thanks for that !

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:59 pm
by swntzu
Thanks for clarifying this. I was unsure of this after playing against a certain NAF president (who shall remain anonymous) at monkeybowl who said that short pass range was 7. This was on turn 16 and was part of a one turner with gobbos so I didn't argue because I didn't want to look like a dick. :s

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:29 pm
by DoubleSkulls
Well I always played 7 was short until the graph came out...

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:00 am
by Podfrey
ianwilliams wrote:Well I always played 7 was short until the graph came out...
Depends if you have an elastic lose-o-meter ;-)

As for the Prez...... how dirty is that??!! :oops: