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Grab

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:45 pm
by Xeterog
I know you can't use grab on a Blitz Action. I need to prove this to some very hard to convience people that being able to use grab on a blitz is a bug, and not something you should be able to do.

I've pointed out the difference between throwing a block and a Block Action (or a Blitz Action), but they seem to think either the grab description is a typo or that the phrase "Only during a Block Action" means only when blocking (which would include Blitz Actions).

I've even pulled out these threads from TalkBloodBowl (tho only one with an answer from Galak)
viewtopic.php?t=25573&highlight=grab
viewtopic.php?t=23269&highlight=grab (this one has an confirmation by Galakstarscraper, the developer and writer of the LRB5 rules)
viewtopic.php?t=21591&highlight=grab
viewtopic.php?t=23234&highlight=grab
viewtopic.php?t=20697&highlight=grab

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:09 pm
by Darkson
If you've shown them the thread where Galak even confirms that your reading is correct, what else do you think anyone else on TBB can do?

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:19 pm
by Grumbledook
your links don't work btw
A player with this skill uses his great strength and prowess to grab his
opponent and throw him around. To represent this, only while making a
Block Action, if his block results in a push back he may choose any
empty square adjacent to his opponent to push back his opponent. When
making a Block or Blitz Action,
the fact that it mentions that it only cancels side step when doing a block and a blitz and that the pushing to any square is only mentioned on a block action seems rather clear cut

I'm struggling to not say something rude about americans right now ;]

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:07 pm
by Xeterog
links fixed

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:11 pm
by Grumbledook
yer that thread that galak posted in is rather conclusive, though imo so is the rulebook ;]

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:19 pm
by GalakStarscraper
Posted to the thread of the discussion directly to assist. If rules questions come up Gortex just PM me.

Galak

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:51 pm
by DoubleSkulls
The rules are pretty clear and the distinction between blocks & Block Actions has been dealt with consistently throughout LRB5. I'd agree this wasn't clear in previous versions but it is now. Maybe recommend they RTFM?

The fact that the Grab action specifically differentiates between Block Actions & Blitz Actions in its own text ought to be a hint.

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:58 pm
by Xeterog
GalakStarscraper wrote:Posted to the thread of the discussion directly to assist. If rules questions come up Gortex just PM me.

Galak
Wasn't sure if you were on there or not..should have known :)