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Eclipse and ineffect neg traits

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:20 am
by daloonieshaman
Player plays eclipse
when it is played a player is suffering from a neg trait

Take Root
Bone Head
Really Stupid
(whatever I missed but you get the idea)

do they remain in that state (I know they lose the trait in terms of rolling)

Re: Eclipse and ineffect neg traits

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:26 am
by Greyhound
Technically a "state" should be different from a skill, so they should loose the skill but keep the state. Right?

Re: Eclipse and ineffect neg traits

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:51 am
by GalakStarscraper
Greyhound wrote:Technically a "state" should be different from a skill, so they should loose the skill but keep the state. Right?
Correct, I would also add that I believe the conditions for the "state" removal are part of the state as well. Thus Troll or Ogre without a TZ could get it back once activated. If a Treeman that had Rooted turned Goblin was Knocked Down he would lose Rooted.

Galak

Re: Eclipse and ineffect neg traits

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:01 am
by Joemanji
GalakStarscraper wrote:If a Treeman that had Rooted turned Goblin was Knocked Down he would lose Rooted.
... and stay unrooted once he returns to normal?

Re: Eclipse and ineffect neg traits

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:18 pm
by Greyhound
Joemanji wrote:
GalakStarscraper wrote:If a Treeman that had Rooted turned Goblin was Knocked Down he would lose Rooted.
... and stay unrooted once he returns to normal?
Again going by the same assumption, re-gaining the skill would not give him the state back, since the state is acquired only when the player declares an action while having the skill. So you goblin runs around, the eclipse ends, and pop! He's a treeman again, this time unrooted.

Re: Eclipse and ineffect neg traits

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:23 pm
by GalakStarscraper
Greyhound wrote:
Joemanji wrote:
GalakStarscraper wrote:If a Treeman that had Rooted turned Goblin was Knocked Down he would lose Rooted.
... and stay unrooted once he returns to normal?
Again going by the same assumption, re-gaining the skill would not give him the state back, since the state is acquired only when the player declares an action while having the skill. So you goblin runs around, the eclipse ends, and pop! He's a treeman again, this time unrooted.
That would be my opinion.

Tom