Kick off and Diving Catch

[Demagoge]

Hi together,

I just wondered, if it is possible for a player of the kicking team, who is directly standing on the middle line to catch the ball with diving catch, if it lands in his tacklezone, but in the opponents half of the pitch.

Thanks in advance.

Best Regards!

[Greyhound]

To use diving catch you must be the target of the throw I believe.

[Ulthuan_Express]

Good question. It doesn't need to be a pass targeted at the Diving Catch player, and the skill description says that you can catch kick-offs that would land in your tackle zone with it.

EDIT: Whoops, misread the original question. You're the kicker. Your player catching it would result in a touchback. So don't bother

[alternat]

the description of DC says that you can "attempt to catch any passm, kick off or crowd throw-in, but not bouncing ball, that would land in an empty square in one of his tackle zones..."

but if the ball lands in my half or otherwise crosses the half line during the kick-off is a touchback for the opponent, so it is better for you not to try and catch the ball, because you would not be awarded with the possession like you woluld in case of a Blitz event.
Better leave it where it is and hope for a failed pick-up in the subsequent opponent's turn.

[Demagoge]

the description of DC says that you can "attempt to catch any passm, kick off or crowd throw-in, but not bouncing ball, that would land in an empty square in one of his tackle zones..."

but if the ball lands in my half or otherwise crosses the half line during the kick-off is a touchback for the opponent, so it is better for you not to try and catch the ball, because you would not be awarded with the possession like you woluld in case of a Blitz event.
Better leave it where it is and hope for a failed pick-up in the subsequent opponent's turn.

Thanks so far. But this was my question. In the description of the touchback, it is stated: "If the ball scatters or bounces of the pitch or into the kicking teams half the receiving coach is rewarded a touchback...". But in my case the ball doesn´t scatter or bounce in my half. It stays in the opponents half of the pitch and is caught by a player.
Is this different to scattering and bouncing?

[Cracol]

When you are playing and you use diving catch are you moving your player into the square the ball is about to land in? Is that what you mean? I could be of the mark but with diving catch you don't move your player into a different square you are just able to catch it in the square you are already in. In this case it would mean a touchback as ball would therefore end up on your half of the pitch.

[Demagoge]

We use DC the way, that you stay in your square and the ball is caught in your square, even if it was thrown. kicked, etc. in one of your tacklezones.

My question is, if it is a touchback, when you catch the ball with DC? Does it count as scattering or bouncing in the opponents half of the pitch?

[Cracol]

I'd say it counts as scattering onto the kickers side of the pitch but to be honest I don't get to caught up in the wording and simply think that when the kicking team kicks if the ball doesn't come to rest on an empty square or in a players hand on the recieving half of the pitch it's a touchback. Arguing that you can use DC to catch it in the kicking half as the ball hasn't technically 'scattered or bounced' there appears to be rules lawyering to me.

[Darkson]

First line of the paragraph you quoted:

A kick-off must land in the opponent's half of the pitch.

If you use Diving Catch the ball hasn't landed in the oppo's half, so is a Touchback.

[Demagoge]

I also think, that it is a touchback. But I couldn´t find the point, because the ball lands in the opponent´s half of the pitch and is then caught by a player.

[Greyhound]

It never lands actually since you caught it!

[Ulthuan_Express]

It never lands actually since you caught it!

And because it doesn't land in your opponent's half of the pitch, it is a touchback. There is no Onside Kick in Blood Bowl.

[Demagoge]

It never lands actually since you caught it!

Okay, that´s the point I haven´t seen. Thanks. I think it´s clear for me now.

[Darkson]

A kick-off must land in the opponent's half of the pitch. Assuming
the ball lands in the receiving team’s half of the pitch, then it will
either land in an empty square or a square occupied by a player.

So "landing" does not mean actually hitting the floor.
DC allows you to attempt to catch the ball "as if it landed in his own square", which would mean it lands in the kicking teams half, breaking the first part of the kick-off rules.

[GalakStarscraper]

DC allows you to attempt to catch the ball "as if it landed in his own square", which would mean it lands in the kicking teams half, breaking the first part of the kick-off rules.

This is my take as well.

Galak