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Frenzy

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:54 am
by fire olli
My Frenzy guy has block, he blocks the player next to him and gets a both down result (the other player has block as well), can he do a second block or does the action stop??

Re: Frenzy

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:07 am
by inkpwn
I think you have to follow up to get the second hit, because stand firm cancels frenzy so no.

Re: Frenzy

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:15 am
by Demagoge
Frenzy only is used if you choose a "Pushed" od "Defender Stumbles" result. It can´t be used after choosing a "Both Down".

Stand Firm doesn´t negate Frenzy. Only Fend negates it.

Re: Frenzy

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:22 am
by fire olli
This is what the guy said who i played last week but i had a look at the rules last night and as i understand it as long as i am standing next to the opponent i get a second block. :?: :?:

I think its "Fend" that can stop frenzy as you can not follow up so you are not next to the other player. ???? ????

Re: Frenzy

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:24 am
by Greyhound
Stand firm does not cancel frenzy!
Read the frenzy rule you get a second block only if you get a push result on the dice. So if you blitz and you have juggernaut you would be allowed to have a second block with frenzy.

In regards to stan firm, yes you don't move but the conditions for frenzy are not about movement, they are:
1) having a push on the dice
2) being next to your opponent

Re: Frenzy

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:43 am
by Ulthuan_Express
fire olli wrote:This is what the guy said who i played last week but i had a look at the rules last night and as i understand it as long as i am standing next to the opponent i get a second block. :?: :?:
Read it again. If you roll a push or a defender stumbles (assuming they have Dodge), you must follow up, and you must immediately throw another block. You must both be standing for the second block, of course, but the first condition is rolling a push on the first block.
fire olli wrote:I think its "Fend" that can stop frenzy as you can not follow up so you are not next to the other player. ???? ????
Yes, Fend stops Frenzy's follow-up (and therefore the follow-up block), but Stand Firm doesn't.

Re: Frenzy

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:58 am
by Darkson
Just to note, if a Fend player also has Side Step, and elects to use Fend but also Side Steps next to the Frenzy player, then he can throw the 2nd Block.

Re: Frenzy

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:10 am
by fire olli
Darkson wrote:Just to note, if a Fend player also has Side Step, and elects to use Fend but also Side Steps next to the Frenzy player, then he can throw the 2nd Block.
would you then follow up into the square he left or just block from the square you are in.

Re: Frenzy

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:13 am
by Darkson
fire olli wrote: just block from the square you are in.
This, since electing to use Fend stops the follow-up.