Judgment call (illegal stat selection)

[Gaixo]

This isn't really a rules question, exactly, but I wanted to get some thoughts on a rules issue.

In our league, a gutter runner who had already gained +1 MA rolled another ten. His coach, unfamiliar with the max stat rule, chose to take another +1 MA. The player suffered a -1 MA injury in his next match. The commissioner (that's me!) didn't find out about the illegal skill selection until after the player in question had suffered his injury. I was inclined to leave the player alone, but a vocal minority thinks he should have to choose another skill and lose his one-turn scorer.

For what it's worth, the coach in question is one of the least experienced in our league and I am confident that he was unaware of the rule. The team has also done very poorly, regardless (or perhaps even because of) the one-turn scorer, finishing with the worst record in the league last season.

Opinions?

[bruce888]

hmm, toughy really, morals mixed in with others views as well. there is an argument for both sides, at the end of the day, YOU are the commisioner, what You say is LAW. However, i would tell said coach to take sprint instead, he still maintains his one turn scorer and the other coaches get what they want as well.

[Glowworm]

So, the player is back down to Ma10 already and paying 60k for that +1

I personally wouldn't worry over it much, if it was as you say a rookie error, if the other coaches insist point out the Tv bloat, if they persist remove the extra 30k add 20k and tell him the player now has sprint...

I'm sure there are several ways to deal with this, you as the commissioner have the final say, as the above poster stated, you are "the LAW"

[sann0638]

Leave it as it is. It's only a game

[Glowworm]

Leave it as it is. It's only a game

Says my league commissioner

[daloonieshaman]

As the coach did not know hit him a few times with the rules book and make him buy everyone a round

[lunchmoney]

So the end result was MA+, MA+, MA- ? If it happened MA+, MA-, MA+ no one would care. Meh, forget about it

[Shteve0]

So the end result was MA+, MA+, MA- ? If it happened MA+, MA-, MA+ no one would care. Meh, forget about it

Agree completely. No need to make a mountain out of this; Nuffle has generously dished out all the "punishment" required on your behalf.

[daloonieshaman]

can he still make him buy a round

[Darkson]

Why didn't the vocal minority speak up before the game?
I'd quite happily let the coach keep it as is - I use the "what's happened, happened" rule.

[Hitonagashi]

Why didn't the vocal minority speak up before the game?
I'd quite happily let the coach keep it as is - I use the "what's happened, happened" rule.

+1

Last game, I ****ed up, and 1 turned with only 2 players on the LOS. My opponent was very generous about it when we realised while post-morteming, but that's always been my attitude to Bloodbowl in general. Once you've rolled dice, you should keep the position.

Is it possible to abuse this stance? Sure.

Is it the Com's job to stop it being abused? Yes!

[spubbbba]

You might be doing him a favour in taking away the 1 turner. They can become a crutch and I’ve often seen Skaven coaches score an OTT even when they receive in turn 1. Which is not a good idea as scoring in 2 turns is usually safer and all you’ll accomplish is give the other team 16 straight turns of ball possession to kill rats.

But that does risk the player losing heart. It’s tough enough being a newbie, getting both beaten up and losing games only to have more experienced players want to punish you further for an honest mistake. I could see him easily lose interest if he thinks he’s being victimised. Far too many gaming groups alienate potential new joiners by conforming to nerd stereotypes and being too cliquey.

Does the player already have sprint or was he able to do the chainpush to get the extra square?

[burgun824]

Let it slide. Any of my reasons for this decission have alredy been posted by others above.

[Gaixo]

Thanks for the advice, guys.

Spubbbba, he already had Sprint. I agree that he might be better off without the one-turner, but he claims to have recently recognized the error of his quick scoring ways.

[Aliboon]

Meh leave it be. What's done is done. It should have been picked up at the time, wasn't and now isn't an issue. Do the other players want everything to go back in time to when the second MA was given, delete all the spps etc from then thus also negating the -MA? I somehow doubt it...