Bombardier

[Bakunin]

If I bomb one of my own player who are prone or stunned and they get directly hit or hit on a +4, is that a turnover?

edit :the skills says that player can be hit and still be treated as knocked down even if they are already prone or stunned.

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[dode74]

Turnover rules, page 7:

1. A player on the moving team is Knocked Down (being injured
by the crowd or being Placed Prone is not a turnover unless it is
a player from the active team holding the ball; e.g. skills like
Diving Tackle, Piling On and Wrestle count as being Placed
Prone) or
2. A passed ball, or hand-off, is not caught by any member of the
moving team before the ball comes to rest or
3. A player from the moving team attempts to pick up the ball
and fails (note: failing a catch roll, as opposed to a pick up, is by
itself never a turnover) or
4. A touchdown is scored or
5. The four-minute time limit for the turn runs out or
6. A pass attempt is fumbled even if a player from that team
catches the fumbled ball or
7. A player with the ball is thrown or is attempted to be thrown
using Throw Team-Mate and fails to land successfully (including
being eaten or squirming free from an Always Hungry roll) or
8. A player is ejected by the referee for a foul.

Bombardier
...Players can be hit by a bomb and treated as Knocked Down even if
they are already Prone or Stunned. Make Armour and Injury rolls for any
players Knocked Down by the bomb.

Rule 1, combined with the wording from Bombardier, suggests that it is a turnover to me.

[sann0638]

Correct.

[Dzerards]

I would agree too. Though I'd like to see it treated the same as a fireball, in that it's only a turnover if it knocks over one of your players with the ball. The Bombardier skill is too much of a turnover liability at the minute.

On another note, reading the turnover rules, wouldn't a failed throw team mate attempt only cause a turnover if you either throw the ballcarrier, or accidentally hit him (if on your team)? Cyanide has being turning over if he gets injured.

[Daht]

Fireballs are never turnovers, since they happen between turns.


For TTM, it would only be a turnover if the goblin has the ball, or lands on another teammate and knocks him over as well.

[sann0638]

I would agree too. Though I'd like to see it treated the same as a fireball, in that it's only a turnover if it knocks over one of your players with the ball. The Bombardier skill is too much of a turnover liability at the minute.

On another note, reading the turnover rules, wouldn't a failed throw team mate attempt only cause a turnover if you either throw the ballcarrier, or accidentally hit him (if on your team)? Cyanide has being turning over if he gets injured.

Cyanide is wrong.

[Darkson]

Cyanide is wrong.

Isn't that just a rule of life?

[Aliboon]

Interesting. I had always assumed it wasn't a turnover as a player who is on the ground can't be knocked down. But the skill description would go against this.

[Pug]

Fireballs are never turnovers, since they happen between turns.


For TTM, it would only be a turnover if the goblin has the ball, or lands on another teammate and knocks him over as well.

That's correct.....throwing a halfling accidentally to the back of the head of one of your own treeman and knocking them out, counts as a turnover...trust me on this! Ask Hanna666!