Shadowing and Quick Step

sann0638 · Post by **sann0638** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:52 pm

One from the world cup (456 x 6 games produces lots of rules situations!).

Can you use shadowing if someone is moving on quick snap?

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stashman · Post by **stashman** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:21 pm

I dont think so because its not an action.

Regash · Post by **Regash** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:42 pm

Difficult to decide.
Yes, the movement is not an action, there for Shadowing shouldn't be usable.
But in the skill descreption it also says "for any reason" which makes it hard to tell.

Just from my own perspective, I'll say that defense is caught flat-footed and no shadowing should be used.
Again, this is just my personal opinion.

Bakunin · Post by **Bakunin** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:49 pm

Good catch..

No he/she can't - quick snap is not a action. The same goes for pass block (thats also not a acton)

sann0638 · Post by **sann0638** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:05 pm

I ruled no, but it was in the last two minutes of the last of 9 games that weekend! I don't think action is relevant, as it can be used when a player is blocked (I think, possibly?)

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:09 pm

Bakunin wrote:No he/she can't - quick snap is not a action. The same goes for pass block (thats also not a acton)

Correct

sann0638 · Post by **sann0638** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:14 pm

sann0638 wrote:I ruled no, but it was in the last two minutes of the last of 9 games that weekend! I don't think action is relevant, as it can be used when a player is blocked (I think, possibly?)

Ah, I am wrong. A player performing an action. Excellent, so you can't use it if a player is blocked, chain pushed etc.

Bakunin · Post by **Bakunin** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:44 pm

sann0638 wrote:
sann0638 wrote:I ruled no, but it was in the last two minutes of the last of 9 games that weekend! I don't think action is relevant, as it can be used when a player is blocked (I think, possibly?)
Ah, I am wrong. A player performing an action. Excellent, so you can't use it if a player is blocked, chain pushed etc.

Nope, but you could shadow the player doing the blocking.. (Side step-Shadowing is a great combo against frenzy

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babass · Post by **babass** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:49 am

Shadowing and Quick Step

Side Step ?
or
Quick Snap ?

dode74 · Post by **dode74** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:53 am

Too much Strictly Come Dancing?

sann0638 · Post by **sann0638** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:50 am

Ha, good spot.

daloonieshaman · Post by **daloonieshaman** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:26 pm

Bakunin wrote:
sann0638 wrote:
sann0638 wrote:I ruled no, but it was in the last two minutes of the last of 9 games that weekend! I don't think action is relevant, as it can be used when a player is blocked (I think, possibly?)
Ah, I am wrong. A player performing an action. Excellent, so you can't use it if a player is blocked, chain pushed etc.
Nope, but you could shadow the player doing the blocking.. (Side step-Shadowing is a great combo against frenzy )

hmm I smell some wonderfully sneaky stuff
so my player has SS & shadowing
you block me
I sidestep
you follow up
I shadow into your square (assuming I SS next to it)

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