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CRP wrote:Ball & Chain (Extraordinary)
Players armed with a Ball & Chain can only take Move Actions. To move or Go For It, place the throw-in template over the player facing up or down the pitch or towards either sideline. Then roll a D6 and move the player one square in the indicated direction; no Dodge roll is required if you leave a tackle zone. If this movement takes the player off the pitch, he is beaten up by the crowd in the same manner as a player who has been pushed off the pitch. Repeat this process for each and every square of normal movement the player has. You may then GFI using the same process if you wish. If during his Move Action he would move into an occupied square then the player will throw a block following normal blocking rules against whoever is in that square, friend or foe (and it even ignores Foul Appearance!). A Prone or Stunned player in an occupied square is pushed back and an Armour roll is made to see if he is injured, instead of the block being thrown at him. The player must follow up if he will push back another player, and will then carry on with his move as described above. If the player is ever Knocked Down or Placed Prone, roll immediately for injury (no Armour roll is required). Stunned results for any Injury rolls for the Ball & Chain player are always treated as KO’d. A Ball & Chain player may use the Grab skill (as if a Block Action was being used) with his blocks (if he has learned it!). A Ball & Chain player may never use the Diving Tackle, Frenzy, Kick-Off Return, Leap, Pass Block or Shadowing skills.

Ball & Chain skill description wrote:The player must follow up if he will push back another player, and will then carry on with his move as described above.

Darkson wrote:If it doesn't count as a GFI then you can get the unlikely (but possible) situation where the B&C is surrounded by 8 Block players and could hit them indefinitely until he skulls, pushes or pows.

Darkson wrote:If it doesn't count as a GFI then you can get the unlikely (but possible) situation where the B&C is surrounded by 8 Block players and could hit them indefinitely until he skulls, pushes or pows.

sann0638 wrote: I think the wording of the skill needs tightening up, basically. Job #1 for the Specialist Design Studio!

dode74 wrote:I would liken it to a Blitz Action (I know it's not one, but bear with me...), whereby the block itself costs 1 point of movement regardless of whether you follow up.

Bakunin wrote:.. So yes, a goblin ball&chain with block, could take 15player without block off the pitch - if they are all stacked 3x5 'north'

Regash wrote:

Darkson wrote:If it doesn't count as a GFI then you can get the unlikely (but possible) situation where the B&C is surrounded by 8 Block players and could hit them indefinitely until he skulls, pushes or pows.

Yep, if he always rolls both down results, that is what happens.
Still whirling around but not able to break out.

Vanguard wrote:I don't agree with that. The rule is quite explicit that it takes a square of movement to initiate the block. The fact that the player doesn't actually get to move due to a both down result is irrelevant.

Vanguard wrote: The rule is quite explicit that it takes a square of movement to initiate the block.

Bakunin wrote:

Vanguard wrote: The rule is quite explicit that it takes a square of movement to initiate the block.

I would like to see that quote

CRP wrote:Ball & Chain (Extraordinary)
Players armed with a Ball & Chain can only take Move Actions. To move or Go For It, place the throw-in template over the player facing up or down the pitch or towards either sideline. Then roll a D6 and move the player one square in the indicated direction; no Dodge roll is required if you leave a tackle zone. If this movement takes the player off the pitch, he is beaten up by the crowd in the same manner as a player who has been pushed off the pitch. Repeat this process for each and every square of normal movement the player has. You may then GFI using the same process if you wish. If during his Move Action he would move into an occupied square then the player will throw a block following normal blocking rules against whoever is in that square, friend or foe (and it even ignores Foul Appearance!). A Prone or Stunned player in an occupied square is pushed back and an Armour roll is made to see if he is injured, instead of the block being thrown at him. The player must follow up if he will push back another player, and will then carry on with his move as described above. If the player is ever Knocked Down or Placed Prone, roll immediately for injury (no Armour roll is required). Stunned results for any Injury rolls for the Ball & Chain player are always treated as KO’d. A Ball & Chain player may use the Grab skill (as if a Block Action was being used) with his blocks (if he has learned it!). A Ball & Chain player may never use the Diving Tackle, Frenzy, Kick-Off Return, Leap, Pass Block or Shadowing skills.

Regash wrote: So for each square MA plus max 2 or 3 (if Sprint skill) squares, one roll on the throw-in-template.
Therefore, it's the max no. of Blocks that can be thrown, if each entered square is occupied by a standing opponent.

Goblin Fanatic has 3|7|3|7, meaning he makes 3 normal squares plus 2 GFI equals 5 blocks at the max.