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Piling On and Ball & Chain

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:55 pm
by Darkson
Just seen a post about this on FB, and it's something I hadn't seen or though of before.

B&C player takes Piling On. If they use it (say on the last turn of a half just before they're sent off) then they've been Place Prone (rather than Knocked Down) and is therefore no Turnover.

Is that correct, or have I (and the ones discussing it on FB) missed something?

Re: Piling On and Ball & Chain

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:36 pm
by Regash
I've just read both skills descriptions and the turnover conditions.
Nope, it shouldn't be a turnover but you'd still have to make the injury roll for the B&C player.

But that leads me to another question:
Let's say, the B&C uses Piling on and beats the armour, causing a CAS.
Then you make the injury roll for the B&C and cause a CAS as well.

Do both players get 2 SPP?

Re: Piling On and Ball & Chain

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:27 pm
by gregory_n_white
Id say that the opposition team get a cas but opposition player = no. Its similar to failing a dodge - the opposition player who forced you to make the dodge doesnt get spp if you get injured.

Re: Piling On and Ball & Chain

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:32 pm
by birdman37
I don't reckon Ball and Chain players can use Piling On at all.
Piling On skill wrote:The player may use this skill after he has made a block as part of one of his Block or Blitz actions...
Ball & Chain skill wrote:Players armed with a Ball and Chain can only take Move actions...

Re: Piling On and Ball & Chain

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:48 am
by lunchmoney
birdman37 wrote:I don't reckon Ball and Chain players can use Piling On at all.
Piling On skill wrote:The player may use this skill after he has made a block as part of one of his Block or Blitz actions...
Ball & Chain skill wrote:Players armed with a Ball and Chain can only take Move actions...
Bingo!

Re: Piling On and Ball & Chain

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:11 am
by harvestmouse
Yes, B&Cs don't make block actions.

Re: Piling On and Ball & Chain

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:46 pm
by Darkson
Good shout. It's a shame it's not mentioned in either skill, given that both skills mention other skills that can't be used.

Re: Piling On and Ball & Chain

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:00 pm
by Regash
Oh, wow...
Read it but didn't see it! :oops: