why no love for Gobbo's.....

[Glowworm]

... or to be more accurate Trolls ?? (and I don't mean Darkson, whom I do love)

My point?

Why are Goblins the only stunty team to have "Loner" big guys, no loner on 'Flings treemen or Ogres.....Ogres!! they both lost their "loner" whilst yet again the poor goblins get jack all from the rules commissars!!

Just wondering if this was ever looked at / discussed? I know trolls are cheap for big guys, but even without loner they would still have 2 nega-traits.....Just sayin'

...and no, I don't think it would "break" the system.....

[fromherashes]

Was loner not kept in to balance the fact that Gobbos have several secret weapons which can absolutely devastate a team if the dice are going well.

I've often thought about running a team of Gobbos without trolls to see how viable it is.

I do agree that taking loner away wouldn't completely break the team though.

[Pedda]

I think it's somewhat compensated by the fact that the goblins themselves are better than halflings and snotlings, but I agree with you, that it wouldn't break the team.

Also, with the buff to halflings with Timmm-ber! goblins might also see a change in Death Zone 2 (or 3, 4, 5....).
Who knows, they might lose loner on their trolls, but there are rumors that they're getting new weapons. Perhaps instead of losing loner?

Time will tell

[Glowworm]

Was loner not kept in to balance the fact that Gobbos have several secret weapons which can absolutely devastate a team if the dice are going well.

I've often thought about running a team of Gobbos without trolls to see how viable it is.

I do agree that taking loner away wouldn't completely break the team though.

All teams can devastate if the dice are going well, I've seen wood elves pitch clear Chaos....

"All goblin teams??" Like that idea, might give that a try.

[Digger Goreman]

Years ago we tried a four troll goblin roster... they still sucked....

This year I tried an Underworld, sans Skaven, roster... casualties unacceptable....

Bon Chance

[Glowworm]

But you don't get the "shiny" toys with underworld....

[fromherashes]

All teams can devastate if the dice are going well, I've seen wood elves pitch clear Chaos....

"All goblin teams??" Like that idea, might give that a try.

I should maybe qualify the first point by saying a higher chance of devastating a team.

I'm not sure an all gobbos team would be viable but it would be interesting to see how it goes if you go for it. Loads of bribe money and spaces for a chainsaw and Nobbla and fanatic and Fungus in the same team most games. Yeah, your one turn touchdown option goes but that's so unrealiable I'm not sure it's even an issue.

[Glowworm]

your one turn touchdown option goes but that's so unrealisable I'm not sure it's even an issue.

Not if I induce Ripper, and it increases if I manage to squeeze Morg in!!

[fromherashes]

your one turn touchdown option goes but that's so unrealisable I'm not sure it's even an issue.

Not if I induce Ripper, and it increases if I manage to squeeze Morg in!!

That doesn't make it all Gobbo though does it...

[Dr. Von Richten]

Apparently the next Deathzone book (Season 2), which will be out in april, will give Goblin Teams 2 new and extra secret weapons. So lets wait and see what they've come up with.

[GalakStarscraper]

The rostered weapons were deemed a good enough extra compared to no Loner Trolls.

[Regash]

Yeah, I also have very mixed feelings towards "new" weapons.
And in the "teams of Legend" PDF Gobos Trolls do have Loner.
Edit: And I just checked, hey had it in LRB 6 too!