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Oi Galak! (or anyone else!)
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:55 am
by NightDragon
Can you give me your opinion on 2 things.
1. What do you think of the Savage Orcs in Comp.1. Do you think they fit well in the Orc roster or unbalance it?
2. What do you think of the Secret Weapon experimental rules in BB Mag 5? Again, do you think any player access unbalances teams and that only star players should have them?
Cheers DD.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:19 pm
by sean newboy
As to the savage orcs from comp 1. In the 3rd ed. league i played in all of the comp 1 players were used extensively, and none of them unbalanced things, although the iron maidens were a pain. I think they would be ok in 4th edition but have not seen enough playtesting to prove it.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:51 pm
by NightDragon
I still use them. The reason I ask is that some are now saying that because of their frenzy they should be re-thought. I don't agree with this. If anyone is to have frenzy as a trait it should be them.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:01 pm
by Agentrock
I actually liked the savage orc position for the team...but then I liked most of the "extra" positions they had for the teams...dark elf assassin, dwarf thunderer, etc.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:08 pm
by NightDragon
The DE assasin was great.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:16 pm
by Agentrock
Wasn't there a hobgoblin Sneaky Git too? If not, we created one for the CD team...
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:34 pm
by NightDragon
Yes there was. Never played against him though. How does he fare?
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:39 pm
by Cervidal
The Savage Orc is completely unnecessary for the team. As is, at the very most, their 16 man roster only has to have one Lineman on it. Put Savage Orcs on there and the team doesn't even need that.
Orcs also don't need another agility player.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:47 pm
by sean newboy
Cervidal not everyone agrees with the need for goblins and Ogres on an orc team or any of the nongreenskin allies for that matter. Goblins are for cheerleaders and apothecary aides.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:09 pm
by Agentrock
DeputyDawg wrote:Yes there was. Never played against him though. How does he fare?
He was actually an eye opener...it was a basic hobgoblin with Side Step and Shadowing...a good combo of skills. When I played with them they were a pain in the butt for many teams.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:15 pm
by NightDragon
Why is he completely unnecessary? They are Orcs and they are good models and come with frenzy.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:36 pm
by Agentrock
True...I always had thought that the extra positions were optional and gave a bit of flavor to the teams that had them...and wanted to use them.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:30 pm
by NightDragon
Exactly, as long as they don't unbalance the team to make them stronger they are good to see.
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:42 am
by Cervidal
Which is exactly what giving Savage Orcs to Orcs does; it unbalances the team. Can you name another team that would have access to a Big Guy, 8 guys with strength skill access, 6 with agility skills, and a pair of passers?
If I tried to put together a brand new roster with all of those attributes, I'd be laughed off of the board.
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:50 am
by Relborn
I agree with Cervidal. All of the special position from the compendium unbalance theese team, because they are viewed as additions to the positions already on the team.
If you really want to include them as a houserule, I advise you to replace existing position players with the new ones ...