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Throw team-mate

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 7:00 pm
by Democritus
I have some questions about Throw team-mate, I hope you can help me.

1. Does a big guy recive SPPs for a successfull Throw team-mate, if the right stuff player lands on his feet? After all it is as hard as making a normal pass-catch, if not harder.

2. Have you used up that one passing action alowed per turn when you Throw a team-mate? Or can you first Throw a team-mate, and then later same turn pass him the ball if he landed on his feet?

3. How is fumble calculated? Is it only on a roll of '1' or does it increase with all the tacklezones and range penalties? A treeman that will Throw a team-mate to long pass range will get -2 to success, he will still success on 6+, but will he fumble on 1-3?

4. Can a big guy use Hail Mary to Throw a team-mate to any square on the field?

5. If the Throw team-mate is fumbled, is it then a turn over?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 7:16 pm
by sean newboy
1) No
2) Yes, No.
3) If its a 1 either naturally or by modifiers. All penalties apply. Correct, 1-3 is a fumble, 4-5 is inaccurate, 6 succeeds.
4) No.
5) No.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 7:38 pm
by Snew
Yep. I don't think you missed anything, sean. Absolutely correct by everything I know.

Re: Throw team-mate

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 7:50 pm
by ZanzerTem
There is one thing you missed sean:
Democritus wrote:5. If the Throw team-mate is fumbled, is it then a turn over?
Yes, but only if the teammate has the ball. Otherwise, no.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 8:22 pm
by sean newboy
Actually thats not correct, if the ball handler fails his landing roll and falls prone then it is a turnover, however if he lands correctly then it is not a turnover.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 9:03 pm
by Democritus
Okay thanx, I thought it was just like this, just needed it confirmed.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 10:59 pm
by Darkson
sean newboy wrote:Actually thats not correct, if the ball handler fails his landing roll and falls prone then it is a turnover, however if he lands correctly then it is not a turnover.
If the thrown player is fumbled then they automatically go prone in their starting square, and if they're holdoing the ball it's a turnover.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 12:40 am
by GalakStarscraper
Clarification on this one ... Sean was right about everything but the last part.

A fumbled Throw TeamMate is always a turnover.

Here is reasoning and both JKL and Chet have confirmed that this is correct.

The LRB says that knocking a player over is a turnover on Page 8.

NOW the TTM rules say that knocking a player over without the ball from a failed landing roll is not a turnover, so its a very special exception.

However there is no landing roll involved with a Fumbled TTM .. thus the exception for failed landing rolls doens't apply .... sooooooo it defaults to the rules on page 8. IE you knocked a player over ... its a turnover. Trust me you don't play Halflings for year in the same league as Chet and JKL without getting spelled out the rules at some point on all the little details of TTM.... :D

Other than his answer to #5 ... everything else Sean said was accurate.

Galak

Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 12:48 am
by Snew
That would go for a bomb knocking your own player over too, BTW.