Buying an assassin for a couple of games against av7?

[Smeborg]

Thx a lot for all the replies. I will definately buy one assassin and see how it goes. I am hesitant to buy two for several reasons: I only have one figure and need the players latest mid next week and we have a house rule requiring players to be painted in order to make casualties and tds. Furthermore would it empty my cash reserve and with 30k spiralling expenses, it would be difficult to replace injured players.

I need some special tricks against the skaven so an assassin might be the thing. He has a gutter w. ag5, leap, blodge and pass block and another with wrestle, strip ball. It's going to be an interesting game

dines - my experience against well-developed Gutter Runners is: forget blocking, just throw the kitchen sink at them. By the kitchen sink, I mean:

Stab
Saw
Wizard
Fouls

On top of their direct impacts, these threats will tend to mess with the Skaven coach's head rather pleasantly.

All the best, and let us know how you get on.

[Catt]

I think Assassins are underrated but they do need to be protected against vengeful players. They can induce an irrational fear which means people tend to seek them out.

I had mine from the beginning in my 1560K Dark Elf team and gave him block as his first skill because it helps put people off blocking him with non-block players. This was fine because block wasn't too prevelant as he skilled up fairly early in the league, and I made a concerted effort to score a couple of touchdowns with him.

He was then fortunate to get an MVP and score a casualty in a defensive block. He was then even more fortunate to roll a double and pick up multiple block.

Where assassins really excel are in a couple of areas:

1) Putting him behind the line of scrimage when kicking off helps to discourage people from following up blocks against your guys on the frontline - especially if you're fortunate enough to have multiple block

2) As a blitzer and cage buster against lower AV teams - this is not as restricted a role as you might think given that most ball carriers are AV 8 or below even on high AV teams. A blitz-stab is often the only chance of success against a well formed cage. Even better if the assassin has leap - although it may not survive the opponents next turn

The rest of the time they are effectively a more delicate lineman with shadowing. And from this point of view turning him into a blodger isn't a bad idea - keeps him alive longer and opens up your options for skilling him up further.

The bottom line is you musn't get obsessed with his stabbing ability - learn to known when not to use it. If you want to skill an Assassin you have to learn to treat him as a lineman from time to time and forgoe a stabbing opportunity.

However if you get multiple block everything changes. You double his effectiveness but also stick a massive big target on his chest.

[Smeborg]

The bottom line is you musn't get obsessed with his stabbing ability - learn to known when not to use it. If you want to skill an Assassin you have to learn to treat him as a lineman from time to time and forgo a stabbing opportunity.

I agree, it's just that following your good advice is far too difficult!

[Catt]

The bottom line is you musn't get obsessed with his stabbing ability - learn to known when not to use it. If you want to skill an Assassin you have to learn to treat him as a lineman from time to time and forgo a stabbing opportunity.

I agree, it's just that following your good advice is far too difficult!

Ha! Thanks. The temptation of an automatic armour roll with no risk of a turnover is very hard to resist even if it's against an AV9 player. After all there's no risk of a turnover!

The only (ok, best) way to get the most out of an Assassin is to get it one or two skills. You can only do this if you try to skill them up.

[Carnis]

I found hemlock with his blodge/SS/JU/stab pretty superb, so making a rookie assassin into that kind of player could be rewarding.. Even better with multipleblock.

[Smeborg]

I found hemlock with his blodge/SS/JU/stab pretty superb, so making a rookie assassin into that kind of player could be rewarding.. Even better with multipleblock.

I've found Skitter, Rashnak and other stabbing Stars to be very good. So I agree that staring at the Stars is a good place to start for advice on practical Assassin builds.

[Greyhound]

and don't forget to take multi-block if you ever roll a double!!!

[dines]

First game with the assassin was against the underworld, they hired a stab star, so it looked like a fun matchup. None of the stab dudes did anything above a stun, so I was a bit dissapointed with my purchase. He managed a TD though.

Next up was the woodies, there he improved markedly stabbing his way to one cas and two KO's as far as I remember.

He was also fielded against the chaos pact due to some succesfull armor rolls from his side. Here he also managed a cas and at least a KO too.

So the coming game is against the skavens, fighting for the second position in the league.

I can clearly see the usefulness of him and it's really hard to resist the free armor roll, even against AV 8, the pact coach thought him overpowered without the secret weapon negatrait but as you all mention, the problem is that its hard to skill him up, because it requires that you miss out on a stab opportunity.

[Asperon Thorn]

Give him the ball and let him earn his spp's by scoring. . .He can still blitz/stab and run towards the endzone.

Asperon Thorn

[Catt]

Give him the ball and let him earn his spp's by scoring. . .He can still blitz/stab and run towards the endzone.

Asperon Thorn

Well he can still blitz and run toward the endzone - a stab actions ends your movement so whilst you can 'blitz-stab' you can't continue moving afterward

[dines]

I'm also a bit unsure if I want to keep him in the playoffs. Currently the setup looks like skavens, chaos pact and either necro, dwarves or rather unlikely a woodie team. He might just be an unwanted TR bloat especially against the dwarves. Well first I'm going to meet the skavens in the regular season, so after that I'll judge whether he's usefull later on.

[Greyhound]

Give him the ball and let him earn his spp's by scoring. . .He can still blitz/stab and run towards the endzone.

Asperon Thorn

Well he can still blitz and run toward the endzone - a stab actions ends your movement so whilst you can 'blitz-stab' you can't continue moving afterward

You can blitz if you stand on the TD line, then catch/receive the ball in the following action, hence scoring a TD.