Travellers new League saison with a Ogre team...

Bizzy · Post by **Bizzy** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:17 am

I can't see your team because I am not a member I don't like paying money to join stuff. Oh well My loss.

DM · Post by DM » Wed May 04, 2005 3:32 am

Well I can see it as a member - so it was pretty easy for me to take a snapshot of the page and host it online as a jpg...

Click here to see it

Note traveller that you can upload and store images online for free like this at http://photobucket.com

I think one thing that's hurting you a fair bit at the moment is the lack of Fan Factor. Whilst I don't proclaim to be a league vet on the table top myself, I do play regularly at FUMBBL and can't stress the importance of taking as high a FF as you can afford from the outset. I'd rather go in with one less reroll and have an extra 7 Fan Factor than what you've done. Once you get the bankroll going, buying up extra Rerolls later and replacing dead gobbas becomes a whole lot easier. I can't see that an extra reroll is going to benefit a rookie Ogreteam as much as having a FF of 8 or 9 to start with.

Please keep posting up your progress though, I find your experiences and reports to be most fascinating

Cheers

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:21 am

Note traveller that you can upload and store images online for free like this at http://photobucket.com

yes, DM,i knew... or i can host them at my own website... just check my WWW button below if you never visited my BB website

Well, with my experiences with my Orc team the last two leagues i thought, i need a second reroll for sure !

My turns could be quite short without...

But i see your reason. After loosing 1 of my 2 FF... and not getting a +1 on the FF dice for winning a game... argh !

Please keep posting up your progress though, I find your experiences and reports to be most fascinating

I will try to post some picts i took while playing the last game later, too.

Traveller

Bizzy · Post by **Bizzy** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:11 am

Maybe this team for you is a practice. For your next league or tournament in which you can use an Ogre team again but "better startup" and with more exp.
I would only suggest something like

5 Ogres
6 Goblins
1 Reroll
9 FanFactor

That one reroll is going to hurt you big time in the begining but deaths, replacement players, and the like is what the FF will bring in. If you can survive with this do it.

But for your current team. I would work on getting the 5SPP, and 4SPP points they are due for a skill. Then pray for something nice and maybe you can string together a few wins.

lereiveur · Post by **lereiveur** » Wed May 18, 2005 12:30 pm

Hello

I'm playing an ogre team, too. I have some problems....

I won my 2 first games (orks and norses) than i lost 4 games... (Dark elves, dwarves, norses, dwaves).

I think that playing against dwarves is horrible because they have all blok, high AV and 2 dauntless dwarves !

If you want to win, you have to kill this dwarves...

Playing against elves is dificult too, multiple blok is funny vs elves.

At the beginning i thaught ogres are a normal team, but now i can see that ogres are a bad team. I'm playing with 8 ogres and i have lot of bonehead. Mi ogres have piling on, multiple blok or break takle, but it's no suffucient to win because others players now have blok, dodge, leaders... Only strength skills is very bad to devellop your team.

Ogre team is a bad team, but it's a very funny team (especially with pilling on

see you

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Tue May 31, 2005 1:47 pm

Here we go again...

Last weekend i played my 5th game with my ogres against a Dwarf team. The coach won the last yearÂ´s league with this team, too. Maybe some people will knew him as he played at the DungeonBowl, too, and for the EuroBowl. Tito with his DortheÂ´s Dicks.

I started with 6 ogres and 5 Gobbos this time. Still FF 1 and 2 RR.

Turn 1 ... after bribing the ref and the fans with beer the dwarves won the " get the ref !". Wow ... after recieving the ball, it started good for my team... one dwarf KO and one stunned. And after collecting the ball the gobbo managed to hand over the ball to another gobbo without loosing it !

Turn 2 ... finaly, after fouling my laying ogre a second time (two times without help rolling a 11

, i needed my apo to save him.

My ball carrier gobbo was blitzed... i just love to have dodge and sidestep

... and he moved a square closer to the endline.

Turn 3 ... after dodging two time the gobbo scored 1:0 for the ogres. First time in 5 games my team lead !

I scored this time as fast i could because i thought, Get the ref will be over after the next Kickoff...

... damm, it counts the whole first half !!!

Turn 4 ... another get the ref for the dwarfs ! Hahaha.. with FF 1 on my team and FF 8 for the Dwarfs no need to roll the dice. Another foul and one of m ogres went KO. Hardly to believe, but this was also the turn where for the first time in this game one of my ogres went bone head !!!

Turn 5 to 8 ... my team didnt manage to stop the ball carrier dwarf runner. Nothing special happend between... i was just happy all my ogres survived this half unhurt as each turn there was a foul on a ogre. But just stunned ogres...

i let the gobbos run away into safety of the opposite half when i saw, there was no chance they could help in any way I just wanted to prevent cas for the dwarves. 1:1 at the end of first half.

Second half:

Turn 1 Finaly no ref for the dwarves

but ... argh... one ogre badly hurt, missing the next game. And a gobbo went flying by a block and was fouled at the end of the turn....joining the ogres missing the next game , too. This time the ref saw the foul... hehehe, goodbye Longbeard...

... but after getting a offer of another barrel of beer from the opposite coach the player was allowed to stay at the field !

I rolled a 6 and got a 6 as answer from Tito !

This would be one dwarf less on the field ... damm !
Turn 2-7 ... slowly the dwarfs worked their way into my half. One of his runners was badly hurt, but his apo healed him. Another longbeard went out, missing next game. There was also a turn with a great chance to change the game: 3 Dwarves went KO in one turn !!!! But all were saved by thickskull skill ! Argh ! Turn 7 saw the 2:1 for the dwarves. No chance to get close enough to the ball. Two players less to play with and some more boneheads and some doubleskulls ...
Turn 8 ... the chance to try a 1TTD. Or just beating some poor dwarves ? Hm, i gave the order to pick up the ball because he landed quite good... but the gobbos, to much trembling , failed this order !

2:1 loss against the ogres, 2:1 Cas for the ogres... 50.000 coins, enough to buy a new 6th gobbo.

- The one gobbos, missing the next game, got his second MVP !

Also he will get another skill after he got sidestep already.
- Another ogre got a skill, too. After two ogres with break tackle iÂ´m thinking about guard on this one ?!
- Bonehead count was a very good one. Just 7 all over the whole game ! But the few were exactly the time and positions doing greatest damage. Like opening a whole flank with two boneheaded ogres on one side or the one ogre which should mark the opposite ballcarrier...

Next game will be against a woodelves team... those guys will just dodging around me!

I Â´m thinking , a draw was maybe possible, when the 3 KOed Dwarves in one turn didnt made their thickskull skill. But this game was at last a fun game again !

BTW... maybe DM can please remove my NAF roster here he posted before. The post is running a bit to spread across the screen for my taste ! And isnt easy reading anymore

Traveller

Bizzy · Post by **Bizzy** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:14 am

Well I would give your next two Ogres guard, then maybe to make things really funny and fun give the next ones after that Multiple Block.

That would be fun.

Also when setting up your field make it so your Ogres don't have to do much and if they fail their bonehead they don't cause a problem or if they don't move they cause a road block.

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:44 pm

argh... tonight my 6th game: Against Wood elves... and just 9 players... one ogre and one gobbo missing this game. I Â´m not sure, if i will buy a 6th gobbo or just save the money for another ogre ?

Traveller

DM · Post by DM » Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:52 am

traveller wrote: BTW... maybe DM can please remove my NAF roster here he posted before. The post is running a bit to spread across the screen for my taste ! And isnt easy reading anymore

Traveller

Sorry mate, done...

DM · Post by DM » Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:58 am

I'd have gone another gobbo

How did the game go Traveller?

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:44 am

Well, it was a good game, no, actually the best game until now...

I dicided not to buy a new gobbo as i think, i will buy another ogre for the next game against Norse... maybe better than to give another gobbo as food to these Norses

So i started with just 9 players as one gobbo and one ogre missed this game. Before kickoff, the woodelves were recieving, i got a handicap roll...

One of the elfs was a bit rough before and was send of the field. Luckly for me... it was one of his Wardancers

The fans of the elves werent happy about this and throw a rock, which KOed a ogre in return

( Mental note: FF 1 against FF 10 isnt good for thing like that,too

)

So after a fast Turn1
Turn 2 ... saw a very fast TD 1:0 for the elves

Well , another kickoff event... Injury time...and i started again with turn 1

Turn 1... the ball went into the air and dropped directly at one ogres

... and he caught it !

( with a 6 !!!) after this i had to build cage with my 4 Gobbos because 2 Ogres turned BH. Here we go again...
Turn 2 ... one Lineelf went KO, another stunned...
Turn 3 ... the only Lineelf with Block stunned my ogre ! After blocking my ball carrier ogre free of tacklezones... what else, he turned bonehead !

Turn 4... bonehead on the blitzing Ogre

Still another Lineelf KOed.
Turn 5 ... another try to attack my ball carrier. The wardancer, taking all his power, leaped into the fray, but missed his GFI ... and knocked himself out

Slowly my team moved into the opposite half.
Turn 6... Blitz: BH, Ballcarrier: BH, the single possible Block: BH

Turn 7 closing to the endzone, but not possible to reach it with a ogre !
Turn 8 Some freeing up a gobbo from 2 Tacklezones... a handover ( uff no BH this time, and the gobbo scored 1:1

2th half:
bad day for the elves... one wardancer missing the game alltogether from start and the other wardancer, catcher and 2 Lineelves diceded to take time out and not to return !

Turn 1 ... the kicking elf, using his kickskill, was quite surprise to see his ball still going off the pitch!

And again a ogre ( yes, iÂ´m learning, too !

) got the ball

Well, Turn 2-6 , just a beating up the elves, which were brave, but desperatly trying to stop the big wave and to get the ball, but at turn 6 with 3 players on the field quite a difficult task . ( turn 6: 2 of the 3 were stunned, too !

)
Turn 8... i just want to make a TD with the ogre , i really want it!

But i was also afraid that this ogre will turn BH at the last moment... argh... well, he made it... with a BH roll of 2

2:1 for my ogres !!!

Turn 8 for the elves ended with a pass action to get another SPP. Not much sense to block my ogres...

Well, a nice game... at last from my view

....
Bonehead Count was 1th Half 9... 3 of them Blitzes. 2th Half just 3 ! Makes quite a different as i can say ! No Doubleskulls this game. For the elves its turned realy bad because of all the KOed players staying away at the second half and the one wardancer not playing at all. And getting the ball into the hands of a ogre... much better than transporting a ball with a fragil gobbo ! Nuffle was on my side ... this time !

No new skills this time. A win of 30.000. I got 80.000 at my bank and iÂ´m allowed (by houserules) to loan up to 50.000. So i will buy another ogre and will start the next game with 7 ogres and 5 Gobbos.

The elves team got some very good skill rolls ! One Thrower +1 STR and a Catcher +1 MA ! And another LE block ! No bad at all !

http://www.thenaf.net/teams/Traveller/M ... glers.html

Traveller

dendron · Post by **dendron** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:10 am

Well doen Trav. Your Ogres are slow starters I think....

Dendron

Lamoron · Post by **Lamoron** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:23 pm

My Ogre team has been doing "great", though I have only played two games. Started with team 5 Ogres, 6 Goblins, 1 RR, 9 FF...

2-0 Win against High-Elf, 5-0 in Cas says it all.
2-2 Tie against Lizardmen, 3-2 in Cas but Apo took care of my Niggled Ogre and Gob was BH.

Ogres are fun... had my entire 5 ogres BH in one turn in game 2, so my Gobz took charge, Cassed a Saurus and scored. I am the luckiest bastard with theese guys and I love them, I have never played a team that depended more on the dice than Ogres.

A tactic that worked for me against theese two teams where Gobbo cages

I had my Ogres spread out around the cage, tying up as many guys as they could (even elves fail dodges on 1), wich left the Gobs in position to have equal strenght against what was left on the team.
I'm pretty sure that tactic only works against teams that dont dodge reliably, so it probably wont work in later games, but I'll get back to you on that.

Has anyone considered/tried giving all the Gobz Diving Tackle as first skill? if using a Ogre as Ballcarrier, Diving Tackle Gobz could be a huge pain to opposing teams, opposing players standing next to an Ogre and not being able to dodge away... Gobz would go splat quite often I imagine, but only one skill required for them to do their job.

Banelord · Post by **Banelord** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:37 am

Hi Trav,

well done, i think you get a feeling for gobbos and ogres.

So after a fast Turn1
Turn 2 ... saw a very fast TD 1:0 for the elves

Well , another kickoff event... Injury time...and i started again with turn 1

I think that was not correct, you loose one turn if you get injury time during turn 1-4 but get one turn if during turn 5-8. So you had to start with turn 3.

Bye, Daniel

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:50 am

ups, i just re-checked the LRB again... and you are right. Our mistake...

...

Traveller