Pro-Elf Team Development

Al the Trowel · Post by **Al the Trowel** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:03 am

Hey all need some advice on purchases for my Pro Elf Team. Its a 10 game season (with playoffs and final if I reach them after that).

Starting Roster was:
2 Blitzers
2 Catchers
7 Line Elves
2 RR
6 FF

After two games FF is up to 7, Apo has been bought and I've got 100K in the bank. So what do I buy next? A 3rd Reroll or a twelfth man in which case my gut instinct is for a 3rd Catcher, but my gut is not necessarily right!

Comments appreciated.

Cloggy · Post by **Cloggy** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:43 am

I would first go for the extra reroll. 2 is not enough to make all the dodges you need when playing against bashy teams. Next would advise to buy a thrower. Your current lineup limits the tactical choices on offense to the run/quick pass/run hand-off play, because you have no passing skills. Having a thrower with accurate/safe throw combined with the NOS catchers gives you the extra option of a long pass play when needed.

Mirascael · Post by **Mirascael** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:58 pm

3rd RR for sure.

I think you should have started the team with a Thrower btw, but I guess it's too late now (though you might still consider one if you've got 70-90k to spend in the near future, 10k/1TR seem a bargain to me).

For a 10 game season you're hardly in dire need for a 3rd Thrower when you have 2 Blitzers and 2 Catchers already.

juck101 · Post by **juck101** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:16 pm

yeah reroll a great idea. 3rr and high ma can give the option for ubber blitzs on the ball. without the rr its a bit daunting to try 5 or 6 2+ rolls on your blitz player without expecting to be on your ass.

absent1 · Post by **absent1** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:47 pm

I save buying the third reroll till late in the season since rerolls don't get skills, get a new catcher and learn dodge with him, then a new catcher and learn dodge, then a new reroll, imo. That is assuming that the league has a playoffs, so thats what is most important, if no playoffs, then yes get the reroll to try and garantee more season wins, though 11 players with that team can get a little rough.

Bizzy · Post by **Bizzy** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:51 pm

AV7 is a bad thing to have solid with exception of 2 players. 2 Rerolls are bad to have also. So I would advise Reroll 3. Then buy a thrower to open up the field of what you can do. Then I would suggest finishing off the positionals. Then replace who you need to and reroll into as many as possible. But I would suggest holding off on catchers because they will be SPP vaccumes.

absent1 · Post by **absent1** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:58 pm

ten games means he will probably be able to buy 2 catchers, 1 thrower, and a reroll, he needs to find the order to do so.

Al the Trowel · Post by **Al the Trowel** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:09 am

The reroll is a good plan, I'll probably go with that.

Not sure on throwers though, they tend to suck up all the completion points if you buy them in too early. The line elves are more than capable of chucking quick and shorts, though they obviously don't have the security of Pass for the longer passes. I'm more used to playing Wood Elves than Pros whcih is where the steer away from throwers comes from. Its also why I like catchers, MA 8 and ST 3 at 100k they are a bargain!

longfang · Post by **longfang** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:19 am

pro elf suck! But I was unlucky enough to suffer 4 deaths in their first 2 games. I their third "recovery" game against a like battered skaven team they failed to do anything and consequently I hate the bastards and hope I never have to use them again!

Alesdair · Post by **Alesdair** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:28 am

Pro Elves, coached by me, just won their first tournament against teams that have played in 3 or 4 tournaments...

As for progression... don't listen to the guy who says RR's don't get you skills... the get you TD's, Completions and get you across the field to let you get Casualities, and those things are what get you skills.

FischerKing · Post by **FischerKing** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:27 pm

Personaly I would go for the player nr. 12, dont like when the bench of my elf teams become to thin. With av 7 you will take some casualties at some point, so you might as well by the replacement now.
In ewery game some player will be ko'd or hurt and you will be in need of replacement. With 10 players you can play allmost as effektive as with 11, with 8-9 things start getting hard and with less than that your in trouble. Numbers matter.

Thrower:
I played woodelves 10 times more than any other team, but ive had a couple of pro elf teams as well. The linos are slow, so the lino passing play is much harder to execute. You might think, its only 1 point of mv, but that point of mv counts for ewery lino involved in the play, the thrower, the reciever and the guy that has to handoff to the scorer. Pro elves starts with no dodge were woodelves has the dancers and the catchers, so spending a rr dodging, trying to free up a player for scoring or a path for passing, is not unlikely. That leaves no rr's for the passing and the handoff action. So.....pro elves needs their skilled throwers, and at 70 k they are a bargain.

I would bye a Thrower, then another lino/catcher and then a rr.

absent1 · Post by **absent1** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:57 pm

Alesdair wrote:Pro Elves, coached by me, just won their first tournament against teams that have played in 3 or 4 tournaments...

As for progression... don't listen to the guy who says RR's don't get you skills... the get you TD's, Completions and get you across the field to let you get Casualities, and those things are what get you skills.

i meant rerolls don't gain skills, and if you are playing in a tournament at the end of the season you need your throwers and catchers to have skills, or they are just lineelves basically, and you might as well not have them. If it's for long term play then you can get the reroll, thats fine, but for a league you should get some players developed for the playoffs, and try and get the 3rd reroll right before the playoffs. Our last league thats what i did with highelves, I had most wins in the league, and thats what another coach did with wood elves, he won the league.

Alesdair · Post by **Alesdair** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:18 pm

ahh...

that'd be the difference...

i was assumeing in his tournament every game mattered for getting into the finals, and not assumeing there would be a playoffs.

Al the Trowel · Post by **Al the Trowel** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:38 am

A Thrower is starting to sound tempting. And at 70k it leaves me with 30 banked as a nice insurance against injury, and if that's not needed in a couple of games time I'll be back in this catcher/ RR quandary.

I'll let you know how it goes on Tuesday (our league night)

Al the Trowel · Post by **Al the Trowel** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:11 am

Ok 3rd game played a 2-1 win against ogres. It should have been 3-0 except for a dozy mistake not realising I had a turn on the clock at the end of the first half. And I could have kept a clean sheet, but decided to preserve players after the Ogres started causing injuries.

Team is currently
2x Cathers both with block
2x Blitzers both on 2 SPP
1x Thrower 1 SPP
7x Line-Elves all but 2 on between 1 and 5 SPP. The MVP keeps landing on line-elves without a completion and my recent games have not been comfortable enough to try manufacturing completions yet on the ones sitting on 5 spp (either that or they just haven't managed to make the pass!).

FF is still 7, RR still 2, Treasury is 110K after a whopping 80k haul last night.

So now what buy a 3rd reroll? That feels like the right thing to do except that I have my first MNG (SIed -MA

) and am facing Orcs next, followed by Undead. An extra man is tempting...