when to retire a young, niggled player?

Haar · Post by **Haar** » Fri Sep 20, 2002 4:44 pm

I've got a Dark Elf lineman on my team right now who just damaged his back last match. He's got 9SPP, and his one skill is Dirty Player. My team has 13 other players, so I don't necessarily need this guy for the meat (although an extra guy can help). The Big Deal is if I cut this player, it will net me an extra handicap roll in my next two matches, which will be against tough opponents. So the big question. Do I keep this guy around, or turn him into an assistant coach? At what point do you decide to retire a player?

Anthony_TBBF · Post by **Anthony_TBBF** » Fri Sep 20, 2002 5:16 pm

I'd keep him until you have a full roster and enough cash to buy a replacement. If he just has DP then he is still useful and it's no big deal if he misses the odd game here and there.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Fri Sep 20, 2002 5:27 pm

With the current 1 in 6 odds ... I'd say keep him ... and put him on the LOS as cannon fodder. Against tough teams with the current handicap table, the warm body will be more important then the extra roll most likely.

Galak

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Fri Sep 20, 2002 9:20 pm

Throw him away and take the handicaps instead. They'll help you more.

Anthony_TBBF · Post by **Anthony_TBBF** » Fri Sep 20, 2002 10:12 pm

I'd rather have the +2 to AV/Injury on a foul against a strong team than the handicap, especially on the LRB handicap table...

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Sat Sep 21, 2002 12:12 am

Yeah, if he shows up. I wouldn't count on it. Sack him now and stop him from stealing MVPs from your other players.

Dragoonkin · Post by **Dragoonkin** » Sat Sep 21, 2002 1:41 am

With 9 SPPs I wouldn't bother firing him...keep him around.

Anthony_TBBF · Post by **Anthony_TBBF** » Sat Sep 21, 2002 1:43 am

So if he doesn't show up no big deal, he only has dirty Player, the fact he might get an MVP is a 1 in 16 chance I'd be willing to take against a stronger team. He's still better than a rookie.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Sat Sep 21, 2002 3:37 am

It's a 1 in 13 chance, twice.

Since i always think long term first, i really believe sacking him as soon as possible is the right thing to do. Getting two extra handicaps in two games just makes this belief even stronger.

Anthony_TBBF · Post by **Anthony_TBBF** » Sat Sep 21, 2002 4:04 am

If the Handicap table had any teeth I might agree with you.

longfang · Post by **longfang** » Sat Sep 21, 2002 2:33 pm

Get him in the front line so that he can taste plenty of boots.

neverdodge · Post by **neverdodge** » Sat Sep 21, 2002 3:12 pm

btw you can t be sure you ll got 2 handicap roll on your 2nd game, that depend on waht you and your next opponent will win.

Personnally i wouldn t sack him until i got one more player i think.

everyman · Post by **everyman** » Sat Sep 21, 2002 6:19 pm

Since I happen to know your next two matches are against well developed Chaos Dwarf and Dwarf teams, I have to recommend you keep the niggled DP.

Here's my reasoning:

Your opponents are bashy. Putting this guy on the LoS increases the chances of the rest of your elves surviving unscathed.

Having a DP of your own can help neutralize how foul happy your opponents are, minimalizing your damage.

Assume the worst, and be surprised when things turn out better: If in either of your next two games you take a high number of casualties, you'll be darned glad to have an extra warm body to fill in while the MNGs roll past.

I agree with Anthony_TBBF that the handicap table has no teeth (at least cannot be relied on to). This decreases my valuation of a handicap roll or two.

I also agree with Zombie, that thinking long term first for your team is the pragmatic way to go. But I disagree with his conclusion. The niggled elf in question (in our league at least, is this a house rule?) can't get the MVP when he's MNG, so you only risk the 1/14 chance for one of the two games. I also think that using this elf as line fodder, so that he's more likely to suffer permanent damage rather than some other elf is a Good Thing long term. I'd rather have one really beat up elf taking it for the team than several elves all battered up.

-- Eric

P.S. Good luck this week against the Gummi Bears! Soften 'em up for me, eh? [I play them the week after with my namby Wood Elves.]

Haar · Post by **Haar** » Sat Sep 21, 2002 8:15 pm

Yah, in the end I decided to keep the player. That way, I'll have at least one player that can show up for the game after this one. The bummer is we have a TR difference of exactly 25 right now, all I need is 1 to get another roll, but my effective TR is lower, since the MNG elf counts toward my TR even though he can't play this game. Oh well, I'll just have to beat him with guile.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Sun Sep 22, 2002 6:39 am

If the two teams are dwarf and chaos dwarf, i'd indeed keep him around and put him on the line. If however he's MNG, then now would be the perfect time to sack him.