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Grashnak or Hthark?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:15 pm
by Ikterus
They cost almost the same. Which one is better?
I have two BCs with block, 6 dwarves (two guard), 4 hobbos (one kick)
I'm playing a developed CD team w Mino
320K inducement so 10K needed for Hthark.
Grashank doesn't have block...
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:28 pm
by Grumbledook
how you planning on getting the extra 10k?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:15 pm
by Ikterus
Grumbledook wrote:how you planning on getting the extra 10k?
Why, pay offcourse... petty cash.
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:36 pm
by DoubleSkulls
The has no effect. You can't "top up" your inducements.
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:07 pm
by grampyseer
If you did have the cash for both , I would take Hthark.
I don't see another frenzied, loner, big guy without block (grashnak) as being an asset.
The extra point of strength will rarely make a difference. After all, you're already throwing 2 dice blocks with a S4 bull centaur most of the time. A S5 one will already put you WAAY ahead of the curve.
...just my thoughts.
By the way: (If you can cut a hobgoblin off of your roster, you would then have the cash to induce.)
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:11 pm
by Grumbledook
if you use 10k cash you will get 10k less inducements, so still wouldn't be able to afford hthark
so that means Grashank is the choice ;p
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:19 pm
by grampyseer
They cost the same.
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:29 pm
by Grumbledook
ah don't know the costs, was going from what the OP said
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:12 am
by DoubleSkulls
It depends on the rules being used as Hthark got a price rise in the experimental rules.
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:43 am
by Jural
Against STR 3 opponents in the new ruleset, I consider them to be equal. Grashnak will get many 3 die blocks if he blitzes, and Frenzy + Mighty Blow means he will cause some damage, more than likely. And at Strength 3, he won't be hit back too often.
Hthark is STR 5, which means he will be taking 2 Die blocks with block all day, and his Sure Feet and Sprint makes him more mobile.
However, as the opponent's strength increases, Hthark is the better bet. He still gets 2 die with block, and teaming with your other bulls he can be a nightmare.
So if you are playing elves or humans or Skaven, I'd go with Grashnak, but Hthark is a fine choice. Against Orcs or Khmeri, use Hthark.
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:57 am
by DoubleSkulls
In his situation I'd probably take neither.
Wizard - 150k
Zzharg - 60k
Card or Bribe (100k)
310
Babes probably not worth it given the TS on all your key players.
If you want a big star is has to be Grashnak.
However if I had 330k to spend only on one or the other then I'd always take Httark. Fast, mobile, S5 block is a great combo.
With Grashnak, 2 dice blocks are going to be turning over every 6th block.
A merc mino with Juggernaut is 230k - and that 80k difference buys you Zzharg too. Which is a better deal IMO.