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Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:48 pm
by kiwidestro
I play the Skavens it's a TV 112 team with pretty much only a AG5 gutter runner. I will play my next match against Chaos Dwarves, and I will get 190 in inducements. Should I take a wizard to prevent his bull centaur from scoring once or should I take a rat ogre to stand up to his dwarves with guard ?
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:32 pm
by Ullis
Wizard might be ok, although 2 babes and a cheap star player might be something to look into too. A Rat Ogre (even Headsplitter) won't stand up to any dwarves. Glart Jr. (who has ST4 and Claws) could be great, but you can't afford it

Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:46 pm
by Punk_in_Drublic
I don't know how you fare in the RR departement, but I'd go for one RR and 1 Babe. Or two babes and an extra player.
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:25 pm
by kiwidestro
I have 3 re-rolls and an apothecary
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:59 pm
by Smeborg
Fezglitch is excellent value against a bash team (I speak as one of his regular opponents).
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:06 pm
by bungo_underhill
Smeborg wrote:Fezglitch is excellent value against a bash team (I speak as one of his regular opponents).
I agree, 1 Fezglitch, 1 bribe?
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:54 pm
by kiwidestro
I ended up taking the rat ogre, it was useful, I lost 2-1 but came really close to tying (missed go for it, re-roll, missed again). Now I have another problem. I have the chance to get my gutter runner to ag6. He is at 16 spps and I got two +1 ag. Should I move him to 6 or get a skill ? Is 6 useful compared to 5 ? Is it worth it ?
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:33 am
by Smeborg
I would take the AG6. It means he can dodge into 2 tackle zones on a 2+ (with re-roll). It also means he can pick the ball up on a 2+ in 2 tackle zones. It would make this Gutter Runner particularly adept at retrieving loose balls and the like, as well as being very difficult to defend against when he is on offense.
If you roll a double later in this GR's development, you can take Two Heads, meaning he could dodge into 3 tackle zones on a 2+ (with re-roll). This is as dodgy as a player can get, and is very rare.
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:00 am
by Porkus_Maximus
6 agility is godly, with two heads he could literally get anywhere. He can intercept on a 3+ so it might be worth giving him pass block, combined with very long legs he could intercept on a 2+!
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:51 am
by bungo_underhill
Take the AG.
It'll give you a 2/2/2/3 thrower, with movement 9. You can get the ball pretty much anywhere on the pitch.
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:35 pm
by Funksultan
As stated, AG6 all the way. Pickups, dodges, everything gets better.
AHhhhhhHh! Pork, Smeborg! What are you guys thinking?!?!??
NEVER two heads on this guy. With AG6, he's pretty much as dodgy as you'll ever want him to be. The times he'll actually have to dodge into 3 TZ are going to be very very very rare, and even then, 3+ with dodge is fine.
Block, Leap, Sidestep... the usual GR stuff is so much more important than letting him dodge into 10 tackle zones.
Gratz on the double AG! Now roll a 6+6 and make everyone here sick with envy.
D
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:49 pm
by Craigtw
Funksultan wrote:NEVER two heads on this guy. With AG6, he's pretty much as dodgy as you'll ever want him to be. The times he'll actually have to dodge into 3 TZ are going to be very very very rare, and even then, 3+ with dodge is fine.
Ditto.
With AG6 he is going to be such a target that this guy's next skill has got to be Block, for pure survival reasons.
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:16 pm
by DoubleSkulls
bungo_underhill wrote:Take the AG.
It'll give you a 2/2/2/3 thrower, with movement 9. You can get the ball pretty much anywhere on the pitch.
He's a 2/2/3/4 thrower. AG6 & AG5 are the same for throwing as a 1 before or after modification is a fumble.
AG6 is better for dodges, catches & pickups in TZ - so well worth it.
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:41 am
by kiwidestro
alright, AG6 it is, thank you
Re: Skaven vs Chaos Dwarves
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:18 am
by Smeborg
Funksultan wrote:NEVER two heads on this guy. With AG6, he's pretty much as dodgy as you'll ever want him to be. The times he'll actually have to dodge into 3 TZ are going to be very very very rare, and even then, 3+ with dodge is fine.
Block, Leap, Sidestep... the usual GR stuff is so much more important than letting him dodge into 10 tackle zones.
Doesn't the same argument apply to the second +1AG?