Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
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Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
Hello, I've a Guard, Grab, Block tree on a very well developed woodelf team and he has just gained a new normal skill. I was thinking Multiple Block, not because I particularly like it, but I can't think of anything else. My team has plenty of guard so getting extra assists will be easy even on a well stacked line. Any other options?
And what should I get the catcher, she already has guard so should I help her survivability with block then side-step and waste the double, or use it with NOS or something else?
Here is the team:
Elizabeth Wardancer 9 3 4 7 Block, Dodge, Leap, Juggernaut, Strip Ball, Frenzy, Side Step, +1 MA
Jane Wardancer 9 3 4 7 Block, Dodge, Leap, Strip Ball, Tackle, Dauntless, Side Step, +1 MA
Linda Ex-Journeyelf 4 4 4 7 +1 ST, Block, Mighty Blow, -1 MA, -1 MA, -1 MA
Fraxinus Treeman 2 6 1 10 LONER, Mighty Blow, Stand Firm, Strong Arm, Take Root, Thick -- Skull, Throw Team-Mate, Guard, Grab, Block
Lola Lineman 6 4 4 7 Wrestle, Dodge, -1 MA, +1 ST
Lolette Lineman 5 3 4 7 Guard, Block, -1 MA, -1 MA, Mighty Blow
Lynn Lineman 7 3 4 7 Wrestle, Tackle N
Janet Lineman 6 3 4 8 +1 AV, Block, -1 MA Lola Lineman 7 3 4 7 Dodge
Lorraine Lineman 7 3 4 6 Guard, -1 AV, Block N
Zena Catcher 9 2 4 7 Catch, Dodge, Sprint, +1 MA
Sarah Lineman 7 3 4 7 Wrestle, Guard
Xara Catcher 8 2 4 7 Catch, Dodge, Sprint, Guard
Sioban Lineman 6 3 4 6 Dodge, -1 MA, Guard, -1 AV N
Elsbeth Thrower 7 3 4 7 Pass, Strong Arm, Safe Throw, Accurate, Kick-Off Return
I have 100k in the bank and am thinking about sacking Lorraine and or Sioban (AV 6 and niggles do not mix). My TV is crazy high and as you can see I'm carrying a lot of injuries so they are not as good as the TV would suggest. Any team management thoughts?
And what should I get the catcher, she already has guard so should I help her survivability with block then side-step and waste the double, or use it with NOS or something else?
Here is the team:
Elizabeth Wardancer 9 3 4 7 Block, Dodge, Leap, Juggernaut, Strip Ball, Frenzy, Side Step, +1 MA
Jane Wardancer 9 3 4 7 Block, Dodge, Leap, Strip Ball, Tackle, Dauntless, Side Step, +1 MA
Linda Ex-Journeyelf 4 4 4 7 +1 ST, Block, Mighty Blow, -1 MA, -1 MA, -1 MA
Fraxinus Treeman 2 6 1 10 LONER, Mighty Blow, Stand Firm, Strong Arm, Take Root, Thick -- Skull, Throw Team-Mate, Guard, Grab, Block
Lola Lineman 6 4 4 7 Wrestle, Dodge, -1 MA, +1 ST
Lolette Lineman 5 3 4 7 Guard, Block, -1 MA, -1 MA, Mighty Blow
Lynn Lineman 7 3 4 7 Wrestle, Tackle N
Janet Lineman 6 3 4 8 +1 AV, Block, -1 MA Lola Lineman 7 3 4 7 Dodge
Lorraine Lineman 7 3 4 6 Guard, -1 AV, Block N
Zena Catcher 9 2 4 7 Catch, Dodge, Sprint, +1 MA
Sarah Lineman 7 3 4 7 Wrestle, Guard
Xara Catcher 8 2 4 7 Catch, Dodge, Sprint, Guard
Sioban Lineman 6 3 4 6 Dodge, -1 MA, Guard, -1 AV N
Elsbeth Thrower 7 3 4 7 Pass, Strong Arm, Safe Throw, Accurate, Kick-Off Return
I have 100k in the bank and am thinking about sacking Lorraine and or Sioban (AV 6 and niggles do not mix). My TV is crazy high and as you can see I'm carrying a lot of injuries so they are not as good as the TV would suggest. Any team management thoughts?
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill.
There's not much choice is there really.
He has: Thickskull, Mighty Blow and Strong Arm and Standfirm.
Multi Block is ok, you don't have to use it.
To slow his advance down, you could use Break Tackle for fun.
If he get's a chance to break into a cage (3 Tackle zones) he could get there on a 3+, this would be funny... otherwise Multiblock is the logical answer.
He has: Thickskull, Mighty Blow and Strong Arm and Standfirm.
Multi Block is ok, you don't have to use it.
To slow his advance down, you could use Break Tackle for fun.
If he get's a chance to break into a cage (3 Tackle zones) he could get there on a 3+, this would be funny... otherwise Multiblock is the logical answer.
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
Break Tackle. Stand him next to a cage. Block off escape routes with your other players, and your opponent either has to move backwards or risk the dodge into the cage next turn. If you opponent knocks down the Treeman its still a 50/50 shot that he'll be able to get up and try the dodge anyway.
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
Multiblock + Grab = two bites at the line-chain apple.
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
Wow... it looks like I'm due a bucket full of doubles soon.
The only things I have only rolled doubles on is 1 thrower and 2 catchers... both catchers are no more!
My wardancers have both got tackle and sidestep. 1 has an AV increase and the other has shadowing. And 2 Catchers, 1 with passblock leap sidestep and the other with sprint and surefeet.
The only things I have only rolled doubles on is 1 thrower and 2 catchers... both catchers are no more!
My wardancers have both got tackle and sidestep. 1 has an AV increase and the other has shadowing. And 2 Catchers, 1 with passblock leap sidestep and the other with sprint and surefeet.
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
Haha Linda the Ex-Journeyelf have got to be the weirdest treehugger ever. 

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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
You can't actually get -3 MA either, its capped at -2. So the last -MA would have just been an MNG. Funny though.
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
Ah thanks, I thought that -2 might be the max decrease you could get, but I quite like the idea of a AG4, AV7 BOB...
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
the AV 6 and nigglers could be dropped. You're cursed by so many doubles!
They are just waiting to get killed.
Heck just play and see what happens.
BTW how many games is that?
They are just waiting to get killed.
Heck just play and see what happens.
BTW how many games is that?
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
It's 34 games now, so quite a few. It is a bit of an odd team, I didn't run catchers for ages, got a lot of guard doubles and -MAs so they turned into a bit of a woody bash team, which doesn't really work...
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
Treeman: multiple block (BT is good, but you won't have too many opportunities to use it, and risky to blitz with a Treeman because you also have to pass the take root roll).
Catcher: nerves of steel.
Catcher: nerves of steel.
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
The value of a BT is not in using, but in your opponent knowing you could use it. If he makes an extra dodge or GFI to get away from that possibiliy then that is exactly what WEs thrive on.
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
With 2ma on the treeman, what's the likelihood of anyone having to GFI to get away from him, or to increase their likelihood of getting away from him?
The situation where a player can view himself under threat for such a reason is so unlikely that it still doesn't warrant BT.
Multiple block on the other hand will multiply the opportunities for the treeman to injure opponents, and thus develop even faster.
The situation where a player can view himself under threat for such a reason is so unlikely that it still doesn't warrant BT.
Multiple block on the other hand will multiply the opportunities for the treeman to injure opponents, and thus develop even faster.
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Re: Woody Treeman 4th Skill. 2nd double on a guard catcher.
Went multiple block in the end, I like the idea of BTing into cages, but given how often my tree roots and that I can always leap into a cage with a wardancer on a 3+ (albeit probably at a 2d against) I decided against it. BT at 76...
Decided on boring block for the guard catcher, NOS is good, but if I need it to score (with 3 catchers now) then I deserve not to. Also it doesn't have any synergy with guard and it would make that player more of a (vulnerable) target. i ended up sacking Sioban too, MA6, AV6 and a niggle was too much. I kept Lorraine though as she was still MA7.
Thanks for the input.
Decided on boring block for the guard catcher, NOS is good, but if I need it to score (with 3 catchers now) then I deserve not to. Also it doesn't have any synergy with guard and it would make that player more of a (vulnerable) target. i ended up sacking Sioban too, MA6, AV6 and a niggle was too much. I kept Lorraine though as she was still MA7.
Thanks for the input.
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