My Ghoul got in the Steroids.... Now What?!

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My Ghoul got in the Steroids.... Now What?!

Post by Digger Goreman »

It's the Ghoul of my Dreams and your Nightmares with a stat line of: 7437

Let's assume that this "massive" target is going to live to two more skills... what should they be?

I'm thinking Block and "?"....

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If you had a double you could contemplate Break Tackle :)
but I assume side-Step would be better.

Just let the strength to its work, I'd make this little guy the ball carrier, because most teams are designed to take down a ST3 ball carrier, not a ST4.

Block/Sure Hands to be boring but because that's going to be a lot of TD going his way and therefore SPP for even more skills.

Plus you can field him when kicking, to blitz the ball carrier and snatch the ball.

Tackle as a third option.

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I agree with Greyhound: Block, S-Hands. It's very annoying facing a ST4 Blodge ball carrier, especially with MA7.

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Post by Digger Goreman »

That's mighty compelling....

Though I wish to ask:

Not a big guy hunter? St4 Blodge+Dauntless

Ball Hunter: St4 Blodge+Strip Ball?

Force the fail: St4 Blodge+Tackle (as mentioned)

Damn well force the fail: St4 Blodge+Diving Tackle (and have 4 to 6 Ma left over)

Where can't he go?: St4 Blodge+Jump Up

Hmmmmm....

On a side note: Think I should just try and run him for three Tds next game and force the move to Block (Blodge) or would sharing the spp be better for the team?

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Smeborg wrote:I agree with Greyhound: Block, S-Hands. It's very annoying facing a ST4 Blodge ball carrier, especially with MA7.
Not to mention that one of the players in the league is a huge fan of Dauntless & Strip Ball so Block & Sure Hands sound good to me for "normal" skills. For a doubles who knows ... maybe SF??? [I doubt I'd go MB unless you also go Block & Tackle]

I don't know if I'd make him my "sole" [soul?] ball carrier. Spreading the love around at least a little is a good idea IMHO.

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Is it an undead or necro team? I like to develop two of the undead ghouls into blitzers. This one? Block + Frenzy. For strip ball he still needs to get at the ball carrier, which is typically not a very nice place for an AV7 player, assuming your opponent defends his ball carrier. I'd rather use him to open up the defence and let one of your wights have a go at the ball carrier.

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Hope for a 10 then pick AV :P

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Duke Jan wrote:Is it an undead or necro team? I like to develop two of the undead ghouls into blitzers. This one? Block + Frenzy. For strip ball he still needs to get at the ball carrier, which is typically not a very nice place for an AV7 player, assuming your opponent defends his ball carrier. I'd rather use him to open up the defence and let one of your wights have a go at the ball carrier.
I have to agree with this.
Any schmo with wrestle can make Strip Ball work so IMO it's always a waste on STR 4+ player. Besides that IMO it's always a bit daft to give your star player a skill which can be countered by 1 general acces skill which almost every team has or will take early.
A mobile str 4 player with frenzy is a downright terror!

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Digger Goreman wrote: Not a big guy hunter? St4 Blodge+Dauntless
with zombie fodder you shouldn't need this
Force the fail: St4 Blodge+Tackle (as mentioned)
This is ok, but only works vs dodgy teams, frenzy works vs every team. Again giving your best player specialist skills that cannot be used vs every team (like strip ball) is always something you need to think about. I would only do it if there are plenty of dodgy teams around and you always struggle vs them while you breeze past the bashy ones.
Damn well force the fail: St4 Blodge+Diving Tackle (and have 4 to 6 Ma left over)
DT without SS or SF isn't very good.
Where can't he go?: St4 Blodge+Jump Up
Never been a big fan of JU myself.
On a side note: Think I should just try and run him for three Tds next game and force the move to Block (Blodge) or would sharing the spp be better for the team?
I'd try to get him Block asap and then stop running td's with it. The spp's will come automatically.

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If I had a +Str on a ghoul in my undead team then I would keep progressing him as a strong ball runner

Block, Side Step.

When he gets to 51SPPS I would consider DT, Fend or Sure Feet depending on play style

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This [general] advice is obvious but it may simply be the best .... Look at which coaches are playing what teams. Determine who the biggest threats are. Once that's done then figure out what skill sets would make this player the most effective vs. your toughest matchups.'

In your league you've basically got 2 coaches you go against. One who loves stunties but also plays Lizardmen & Humans. There's plenty of Dodge & other things to go after here. The other [noob?] coach runs Slann, D Elves, and Amazons. If developed "properly" there's probably a lot of Dodge & mobility skills here too.

So in this Dodgy/Mobility league vs. coaches that usually aren't cut-throat I'd go for the best solution you can find. Tackle or DT eventually may work out nicely simply because your opponnents are less likely than normal to go after your star player and they will rely on being mobile.

YMMV

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big guy hunter just isn't needed as already said

and duntless on a st4 player is also silly in my book ;]

block, side step, diving tackle would be very annoying to play against

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Winger? Side Step.

Hunter? Frenzy, except on a Necro team. Then he's a winger.

In my world, those are the two tracks for a ST4 Ghoul... after Block, of course.

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The Painted Goblin wrote:Hope for a 10 then pick AV :P
This.

I would get him Block ASAP. Force the TDs, Nuffle loves that crap. :-?

I would go for tackle. Most teams feature dodge at some point, and being able to park a Blodge STR4 tackle player next to someone is gravy.

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do you plan to change the model to put something beefier instead like these guys to represent the ST4?

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