Talk Fantasy Football

Potentially going either dwarf or skaven for a mini invitational tournament down south.

Dwarf I have an idea what I'm doing with, skaven less so.

The rules are;
teams are 1.1 million but 40k of that can be spent on 2 normal skills (so basically 1060).
Then after game 2 you get 40k more to spend on normal skills
Then after game 4 you get 60k to spend on anything you want.

No money can be saved between the games. Players can be given up to 2 skills.
Each skill can only be picked on the same positional twice (so 2 dwarf longbeards and 2 dwarf blitzers with guard is fine but 3 longbeards with guard isn't).

The vast amjority of the teams I will be facing are Orc teams, with a human team or two.

Ok, so Nippy has convinced me about the rat ogre and I'm a definite convert, (what he hasn't convinced me about so much is only taking one blitzer).

Rat Ogre seems necessary for cage breaking, he gets stand firm as the first team skill, blitzs a corner of the cage and stands firm next to the ball carrier with his prehensile tail. Then in game 5 he gets either block or diving tackle (prob block) - only issue here is I can't think of a second double skill I'd want in the team so I end up with 1 double and 1 normal skill over 3 normal skills.

Team options are. (Both are 12 rat teams or I could replace a linerat with an apoc?)

Rat Ogre 150 (stand firm then later block)
1 Blitzer 90 (guard)
4 Gutters 320 (block x 2, then either a horns/wrestle/strip?)
Thrower 70
5 linerats 250
3 rerolls 180
1060

Rat Ogre 150 (stand firm then later block)
2 Blitzers 180 (guard)
4 Gutters 320 (2 x block)
Thrower 70 (leader)
4 Linerats 200
2 rerolls 120
20k left over so 1AC 1CL? (Upgrading a linerat to thrower doesn't seem worth it?)

Or if anyone else has got any other bright ideas I'm all ears. All skills are negotiable except for stand firm on the RO (and I guess leader in the second list )

Keep 2 blitzers, go with the second version.

I'm not a big fan of the ROgre unless he has Block to start. Waiting until game 5 to keep him from being turnover prone is really not worth it IMHO.

I would trade the ROgre for a reroll and linerat and use the skill for an extra guard on a blitzer or Kick on a linerat.

Assuming I did drop the RO - how do you advise defend with a skaven team if the opponent manages to cage up? Kick + strip/wrestle being good but not exactly a reliable strategy?

Keep the RO. Otherwise you may as well play with elves.
I think the first roster- except trade a RR for an apo. I think 12 men is too risky with skaven. You have to comprimise somewhere at 106.

Give the thrower leader. I prefer Juggs on the RO, but thats choice.

G2- Guard and strip

G3- Block the RO. Horns/guard on a GR is v. useful as a double. Or +MA for the one turner.

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An alternative I've just thought of is to take your roster 2.
G0 ROgre SFirm, Thrower leader
G2 Blitzer MB, blitzer guard.
G4 ROgre Block, (MB) Blitzer Claw.

MB + Claw is awesome. Especially against orcs/dwarfs. In fact take this. He will tear up in the last 2 games.
Strip is probably limited anyway vs orcs/dwarfs.

I think the first roster- except trade a RR for an apo. I think 12 men is too risky with skaven.

12 men PLUS an apoc? That not overkill?

An alternative I've just thought of is to take your roster 2.
G0 ROgre SFirm, Thrower leader
G2 Blitzer MB, blitzer guard.
G4 ROgre Block, (MB) Blitzer Claw.

I do like that (you know I like to block no matter what race I'm playing lol) - its just it means no block on any gutter