Talk Fantasy Football

I am playing Cyanide open league with Lizardmen and I'm having some good results but my Saurus are not levelling up and the skinks are getting only normal skill ups.

i have:
4 RR
1 Krox unskilled
5 Saurus - 1 block/1 break Tackle (I should have 6 but one died delaying the cash flow)
50k Cash

So far it's a classic, it's my usual start in the league. However having encountered twice ogres my skinks have managed quiet a few SPPs through casualties (they were running mad on the snots) and of course TDs.

edit: Do I fire them, or hope they will die? At this TV I faced a 14-men Norse Lino + 2 berzeker + Troll + bribe the ref and of course couldn't hold them taking my first loss.

I spread the love to try to get a double ASAP but now I have 6 level 2:
-1 catch 14spp
-2 side step
-2 diving tackles
-1 Sure Feet.

I don't have the cash to fire them/replace as would normally do, and even if I could I still need 30k for my 6th Saurus.

My TV is way too high, the skills on the skinks are worth 120tv, and I would have a better return with 6 unskilled skinks and an extra Saurus+ Block/MB.

I am toying with the idea of firing every skink but 2 and play with 4 journeymen, they have dodge to be mobile assists so I don't fear Loner. I can protect the 2 skinks without loner to be the ball pickup and the runner.

When my skinks gain a skill up I normally don't bother to take it on the Computer Game. It prevents my TV from jumping because it only adds the cost when you choose the skill. I also risked a starting team with only four skinks which gives me a better chance of an MVP on my big guys. Finally, if you have a clear win already and a spare re-roll or two consider trying to get your Saurus to score. If you are 2-0 up and can't loose the only thing that you miss out on is SPP for a skink you don't want to skill up.

Long_Bomb wrote:When my skinks gain a skill up I normally don't bother to take it on the Computer Game.

??? That was an exploit that was fixed in BB1. Do you mean it's back in BB:LE, or that you've used it in BB1 recently?
Or are you talking about Single Player, in which case I'd say just take the TV anyway, cos the AI won't pick sensible inducements.

I quite like 2-skill stunties. DT and SS is a fun combo. If you like, keep a couple of two-skill guys and a couple of one-skill guys. Then every time a Skink gets a first roll and it's not doubles, fire him if you already have four skilled Skinks. Let the two-skill guys get to three skills before you cut them (unless they become special; never can guys with doubles or stats).

In my book, you just have two skilled Skinks too many, at least given that you have no doubles or stats.

Darkson - I must be out of date, I only noticed a few days ago that you don't get cash back when you cut a player anymore.

I'm not here to exploit the game, so to be fair even if there is a way I don't plan on using the 2 cheats mentioned above:

- Firing skinks to get money back (I don't think it works, it's a lame cheat anyway)
- Not levelling up.

So everyone is kind of agreeing that I'm dragging extra TV for no reason but is it really worse than having 4 Loners.

if I had the cash I would fire 4 skinks and get 4 new unskilled ones, hoever where I stand firing skinks will:
1) diminish my bench (loosing the spare one i have)
2) journeymen will replace an ok-skill like side-step with Loner.

The way I calculate it right now is that any normal skill-up on a skink is increasing my TV by 20 but giving me 10k benefit, so I'm 60k overweight with these guys. It wouldn't be a problem if I was at 1800 TV, I agree that I could possibly keep them as is, but as such a low TV it's a pain in the butt.

Really it's about the amount inducements I loose here and the matchmaking problem. Considering I'm matched by TV, anyone in my TV range would have 4-5 skills and bench and that means:
- Dwarf/Norse/Orks having Mighty Blow/Guard
- Elves running crazy on blodge
- AG3 teams (skaven/humans) getting a few blodge, good passers, and probably a guard
- Ogre/Goblin/Vampire with a few very good players

I'm still on the other hand a rookie team with 1 block, and some "could be useful sometimes" skills on my skinks.

I'm leaning more and more toward trying to fire most of them and live on skeleton crew of loners.

Greyhound - I think your team is doing just fine. In all leagues that I have played in the Lizzies have been slow starters but strong finishers. The Skinks will come into their own once the Sauruses start to skill up.

I find your skill choice for the Skinks somewhat specialised (but then I always tend to shy away from skill specialisation). I would be inclined to pick Sidestep as first skill on all of them, since it is more of a "universal" skill, useful whatever comes after. But that is the only mild criticism I would make (other opinions might differ). Even if you had the cash, there is no case for firing Skinks. And you are correct to save for the last Saurus.

All the best.

Thanks Smeborg.

I have actually tried the SS on everyone and although it kind of always work i found that specialisation was a nice tool.

With a very fast speed there is often a case of being able to use skink A or skink B to do an action. When I start a game I can pick the skinks which will be useful and the ones that won't. For instance when facing Ogres, Diving Tackle is a real Snot-stopper. Whereas the sidestep are less handy, so I use SS-Skinks for assists (sacrificial lambs) and I use the diving tackles to target specific snots.

Next game i am facing Norse, I can now reverse this, us the diving tackle as mobile assists and the SS to lure the frenzy bereskers where I want them.

The first skink I level up I always take catch (non-double) and cage around him while I keep the ball in the back field. I find that i need to hand off at least twice a game and Catch gives me the confidence to do it.

I like developed skinks. if any of them gets AG 4 mov 9 or ST 3 you have got already a superb player!!

Don't fire them and you'll see how one or two will die or det smashed but the others will become profets of the slanns!!!!