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I have had an amazon team play some 50 games now, and have just been retired from sheer boredom. I can't think of any other team as bland as this. It is the only team which have players without 3 phases from lineman. What I mean by this is that a lineman can be any position on the amazon team in just 2 skills *Edit*Not to my surprise it's only one skill difference *edit*. Even Norse have a player with some flare in it (The Blitzer of course). High Elves also seem rather bland exept for there catchers who have +2MA,-1AV and Catch wich to me is a good difference from a lineman.

After all of my games with the Amazons I ended up with a team full of Blodge, Tackle, Stripball interchangeble players with no distinct possitions. The Blitzers do have an advatage of getting strength skills, but this only garanties Guard and Stand Firm for 4 players. The Passers gain Sure Hands and continue on as linewoman, and the Catchers are just Linewoman with catch.

At my Peak Stabalizing point of about 200 TR I had 8 Rerolls 16players and a perminent stash in my Treasurey. Dodge is almost lost from every other team picking up some tackle, so I ended up with a strategy of spreding out my Guarding, Stand Firm Blitzers and trying to get as many 2Die blocks out of assists, Frenzy or Dauntless. And when the ball carier is close make sure to hit it and pick the ball up. I could choose any player to blitz in because most of my team had tackle, strip ball, dauntless, frenzy or any number of blitzing skills because what else do you give a team full of lineman. I wasn't lucky enough to roll many +Stats exept for a few +1STR that where systematicly singled out and beaten to death leaving me with one at my final roster.

All of my other teams have had way more pizas to there game and I was wondering if any other Amazon coach has been able to make a player that stood out amongst here crowd of Linewomen. The closest I got to a "Star Player" was the +1STR, Blodge, Frenzy Linewoman who spent most of the game as a big hit me target. There is no problem with winning matches sometimes I think the amazons are a little to good at what they do, but It was very boring playing with a team full of lineman. Even Chaos teams get +1AG beastmen, or Big Hand, and there multitude of Physical traits.

Playing Amazons is about as much fun as playing Chaos without mutations, Yeah they'll still be good but what fun is it to have the same skills on every player.

I hope somebody points something out to me or maybe thats just how the team is sapposed to be (Boring). A while back I posted virtually the same thing but around game 20 when I first hit 200 and was still building my team. I proposed a change to catchers such as NoS and Jump Up or a Stat change, but I guess the paralells to the norse team must have to stay the same, its just that 6337 Blodge and 6337 Block,Frenzy,Jump UP have totaly different feels to them for the highest cost players.

I pretty much agree. I have never liked the Amazon team. I have yet to play them but they don't interest me at all.

I was asked by a BBRC member if I thought they were overpowered and I said then what I'll say now.

They aren't overpowered but they certainly are a no-brainer. If you look at all of the league sites you rarely see them at the bottom. They are almost always in the top half of the league and they almost always look exactly the same. There is only one way to develop them.
I think Fanatic could have delivered a much better team than the 6 3 3 7 "one skill" team. It was funny on the Norse but it really doesn't work well outside of that.
I don't think I'll ever ban them from a league but I don't think I'll ever be happy to see some turd play them either.

Oi! Who are you calling a turd

Maybe they were just a token gesture for female players. I must agree it irritates me to see some nurd brain using them because they are really a starters team just to get used to the game. Mind you I painted one up a month ago and they look damned good.

While I agree with Pariah's opinion that Amazons have a "no-brainer" development path, I do appreciate the Amazons as female representation in Blood Bowl (ala DeputyDawg). Granted, the majority of BB coaches are male; but it's really not that kind to women. It's even moderately offensive to some women (e.g my girlfriend). I hate to sound preachy but I'm just glad to have the Amazons represent femininity in a testosterone-dominated gaming environment.

I only played amazons for 9 games, yet at the end of that, i had a very diverse team. A thrower had accurate and sure hands, a catcher had block and pass block, a blitzer had AG4, a linewoman had ST4 and block, another linewoman had AG4 and yet another one had MA7. A lot of other players had only one or two normal skill upgrades.

If you're lucky enough to get a couple stat increases, and make good use of the blitzers' access to strength, catchers' access to agility and throwers' access to passing, you'll have a pretty diverse team.

Wow, thought I'd get at least I'd get a tiny bit of oposition, well I guess the Amazons are the most basic, simple team exempt for the mini's. So the only good virtue of the team is mini's . I was thinking what kind of niche they fill,but it seems there really isn't one. The only thing they do is not fall down, otherwise they are a team full of lineman. I guess this isn't all bad compaired to the Norse, who's job is to fall down (On you! really hard). The Norse also have access to Big Guys the Amazons don't, which ads a ton of flavor to the 6337 lineup. I'd like some suggestions on how to change the Amazons for more flare and have them fill a more obvious niche.

The thought that crossed my mined is that if Norse Blitzers can have an Agility and General Traits than Amazon Catchers should have a Strength and General Traits. So maybe 6337 Dodge,Catch, NoS, and Stand Firm 110k. This might make them to good at high TR's since they normally end up with to much money and nothing to spend it on, so a Reroll price should go up too. I don't think the Amazon roster is even consivabley alterable to GW, Fanatic, or anyone else for that matter, so I'll just let this team, that almost got my interst (probable from the mini's), faid into a first phase team thats just there for learnig purposes and for those questionable few who like to paint the nooks and cranys of there mini's

Read my post above, which i posted while you were typing yours. I believe that amazons are perfectly all right. The only change i could see to the team is to make them a little weaker, because as it stands they're too good at low TR. Maybe making their rerolls cost more (say, 60k) could fix that.

Zombie, it doesn't sound like you developed anything that unique on your team.
A linewoman with blodge? A Thrower with accurate and sure hands?
It sounds like you got alot of stat increases and added block to them.
You can't claim that the team has the potential for diversity because you got more than an average number of stat increases. The rest of the stuff you did was the same no-brainer stuff that every other Amazon coach does. I don't see anything unique there.
Your team is the exact type of team we are talking about.

I think it's a matter of taste whether you enjoy playing a side where many (or all) the players are the same.

I once played a Chaos Dwarf side in 3rd Ed. (before Bull Centaurs). There were only 2 player types, and I followed a "standard" development path for the Chaos Dwarfs and the Hobgoblins. I didn't roll a stat increase until my 23rd Skill Advance. They were a fun side - I liked the way they played.

I also had a lot of fun playing a Hobgoblin side in a league for a short while. They were great - just 6337 and Re-rolls, with a few skills. I guess you can't get more bland than that, but they were a fantastic challenge to play as a coach.

So if you don't like Amazons, don't play them - find a side that better suits your temperament. It's not a question of skill, but enjoyment.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Pariah wrote:Zombie, it doesn't sound like you developed anything that unique on your team.
A linewoman with blodge? A Thrower with accurate and sure hands?
It sounds like you got alot of stat increases and added block to them.
You can't claim that the team has the potential for diversity because you got more than an average number of stat increases. The rest of the stuff you did was the same no-brainer stuff that every other Amazon coach does. I don't see anything unique there.
Your team is the exact type of team we are talking about.

He said that he made his throwers, catchers and blitzers into linewomen. Without block and with dodge, pass, sure hands and accurate, the thrower is certainly no linewoman. With block, dodge, catch and pass block, the catcher is no linewoman either.

As for the stat increases, my point is that they act to counterbalance the 6 3 3 7 statline and provide some unique players.

Yeah...that was my "issue" with 'zons...you end up becoming a frustrating (to your opponent) team of impossible-to-knock-over players, while simultaneously not accomplishing much on your gain-path until you get around the third skill, where you can finally start developing some unique players...but the consistant (boring) statline really stops you from doing much with them.

I just find Amazons very "blah!" for lack of a better word. Plus I have a hard time figuring out why a guy would ever want to play them, I compare it to the kid who played with Barbies instead of G.I. Joes... it's just wrong.

-Balrog

Maybe for little boys, it's more normal to play with little platic men than plastic women, but for grown men, it's the other way around!

Interesting! I never thought, YOU were playing with plastic women. I suppose, besides being plastic they are inflatable as well?