Talk Fantasy Football

O.K., I guess this rather belongs to tactics, so I will post it here. To isolate this from the ghoul discussion of the other thread, I will open a new one.

Since jump up becoming a trait I personally don't select this trait anymore, because the specific player has either no access to agility skills or I find something more useful for a doulbe roll for my players.

Yes, there have been some suggestions how to revamp this trait, but instead of new inventive ideas I rather want to get your opinions on why you would choose or chose jump up on that specific player/position and how you (would) tactically use it (all under the current rules set, of course, so junp up/PO is ruled out ).

Is it worth it? Advantages? Especially compared to other skills/traits now?

Sputnik

I play Amazons.
And when I'm lucky enough to roll a double for my Catchers, I don't hesitate.
They have an annoying average MA, so it works quite good on them.
I use them as scorers of course, but mainly as linebackers, and it's very important to cover all the field with a so slow team.

Probably the only players I would take it on are Elven Blitzers and Lion Warriors. Even then it would only be if I already had enough Guard/Dauntless.

JU is a poor receiver skill now (as handoffs are no longer a free action) so really its only useful on players you want to be able to hit with. Most of them can't get it, or have more urgent priorities.

Agree with Ian Williams.
It's not good enough to be a trait.

I'd rather have it as a skill with the clause: Must have AG equal to or higher than ST.
Martin

I think Jump Up is a trait just to avoid the Piling On+Jump Up combo on mummies or black orks ...

W

I don't think I've ever chosen Jump Up, but I've been close several times.

Since Jump Up breaks a "core principle" (a player who is knocked over can't Block back) I don't think it's much of a problem though.

I'd choose Jump Up at times with AV8 players, who can be placed in a way that they risk getting knocked over. But that's only HE & DE, and I've hardly ever played them.

I've given it to Wardancers and Lion Warriors.

Don't think I'd give it to many other players, to be honest.

Wonder wrote:I think Jump Up is a trait just to avoid the Piling On+Jump Up combo on mummies or black orks ...

W

Not just the Piling on. This used to be THE skill for players above STR 3. If you follow up, the downed player gets to hit back w/out blitzing. If you don't the same strong player can move without TZs or MV penalty.

Made Mummies the kind of nightmare that didn't go away.

It would be better if you could stand players up without activating them. But it may be too good then...?

Seems to work OK for Vampires although I have only had it for
3 games now. Fits well with the new Hypnotic Gaze; or if you are using the
Vamp as a sort of catcher.

sangraal