range ruler question

[valedictor]

Is it ok to pre-measure distances with the range ruler BEFORE i declare a pass action (or before i have finished moving the thrower)? Or do i have to wait until the thrower completes his movement? i.e: can i keep moving the thrower one square at a time and measuring from each square if i want to, and can i measure distances while other players are activated?

Is constant checking with the range ruler considered bad etiquette by anyone? Maybe it would be more fun and more sporting to only measure after the pass recipient is declared? (a bit like measuring the cannon distance in warhammer) so that a bit more judgement is required?

John

[Snew]

No one I play with minds at all so long as the pass action has been declared. Add a GFI, whatever. We play with the timer so any way you want to waste your 4 minutes is up to you. You're not going to make the game drag out or anything.

[Longshot]

that is into the rules:
you declare, you move (+gfi or no)
then, and only then you check the distance to all the catchers you want.
choose the catcher,
interception phase,
throw
Catch
...
...
TD!!!

[neverdodge]

nah, you re just kidding boys, i ll never say something to someone measuring range before move,, you can do it any number of time you want ...

[Longshot]

of course i do, measuring is at the end of the mouvement of the thrower.

[neverdodge]

bah, so you can just have a paper in your hand with the different range of the pass for each sqaure and count on the field, that s the same...

[Trambi]

Yes you can say that all your block make an injury !
But that is not the rules.

First of all, the coach must declare where the player is
trying to throw the ball to. The player can throw the
football to another player in his own team (or another
player in the opposing team if he really wants to), or
simply to an empty square, though obviously the first of
these options will be the most useful – and may keep
him from being attacked by his own team members! The
ball may only be passed once per turn.
Next, the coach must measure the range using the
range ruler. It is perfectly acceptable to pre-measure
the range to several players before you declare who
you will throw the ball to.

[neverdodge]

what i mean is that a rookie do not automatically know that 3 square forward is a quick for example and that 4 is a short, so it ll give advantage to a coach learning the pass table, and i think that s unfair

[Trambi]

That's is ok for me.
But the rules are like this.

[Longshot]

he is newbie as we were.
But with newbies, i would tell him what the distance is without taking the range. i would advice him and then he plays like he wants to. He has to learn, not to be helped each time. so, i would help him as a beginner but not for a long time.
For experienced players, the rule is the rule.

[Trambi]

except for IP.

[neverdodge]

why not, btw i never noticed you can t measure whenever you want, never saw that one..

[Longshot]

It is in the 3rd Ed rule book or advanced rules (DZ), i dont remenber the page. But i am sure of that, pass is my favourite play

[Bevan]

Yes you can say that all your block make an injury !
But that is not the rules.

First of all, the coach must declare where the player is
trying to throw the ball to. The player can throw the
football to another player in his own team (or another
player in the opposing team if he really wants to), or
simply to an empty square, though obviously the first of
these options will be the most useful – and may keep
him from being attacked by his own team members! The
ball may only be passed once per turn.
Next, the coach must measure the range using the
range ruler. It is perfectly acceptable to pre-measure
the range to several players before you declare who
you will throw the ball to.

The rule book says First of all..declare where the player is trying to throw then it says measure with the ruler. But it also says that you can pre-measure to several players.

Its clear that that "First of all" bit means nothing at all. You can pre-measure whenever you like because you do that before the "First of all" bit.

We have coaches who pre-measure when they are moving a catcher to a position where they will later throw a pass. Then they mark a square that they want the thrower to move to, then they may make a couple of blocks to shift players around, then they declare the pass and move the thrower to the marked square. To me this is all legal as "pre-measuring". However, I can see that other might be more picky over this rule.

[Longshot]

LRB 1.3:

once per turn a player on the moving team isallowed to make a pass action. The player is allowed to make a normal move,and AFTER he has COMPLETED the move he may throw the football.=>P13

What you are talking about is the throwing sequence. But it is clealy said that you must move before throwing and checking the range.