List of Cyanide Bugs

[SillySod]

I finally caved in and purchased the game... several months after I had originally intended to buy it.

I was put off by the huge number of bugs reported along with all missing content and the whole download only fiasco. Despite this I was impressed by the general look and feel of the beta. Six months seemed like enough time for them to correct most of the obvious bugs and the whole thing looked like quite a fun (albeit impractical) platform to play bloodbowl on. Sadly the bugs are still there and there seem to be more than I've heard about.

I figured a definitive list of bugs would be a good idea so that people could a) know what they're buying, and b) not get caught out by them during the game. Please post any bugs you think I've missed and I'll try to add them to the list. It'd be handy if you pointed out when stuff gets fixed too.

Bugs

Bribes:
- work automatically
- cant be used to save secret weapons

Chainsaws:
- suffer a +3 armour modifier when they are fouled

Piling On:
- doesnt apply mighty blow to the re-roll

Skills:
- are mostly compulsary (this seems fair enough though)

Stuff missing from the game

- Amazons, Chaos Dwarfs, Dark Elves, Halflings, High Elves, Khemri, Necromantic, Norse, Nurgle, Ogres, Pro Elves, Undead, Vampires
- Anything LRB5+ onwards including new teams
- Most star players
- Goblin bomber
- Wizards (you get scrolls instead but sadly not in the public league)
- Assistant coaches
- Bloodwiser babes
- Cards
- Halfling masterchef

[Xeterog]

I've used bribes to save a secret weapon many times

[SillySod]

How?

Both mine got knocked out and then sent off without me being given an option to have them back.

[Jural]

also, the wizards are completely random by race. For example, dwarves get a team wide +1 AV buff for 2 turns, humans get a fireball, Chaos forces one member of the opposing team to randomly attack a player on his own side... But they are not well thought out at all- and there is no option to just get the standard fireball/lightning bolt wizard.

Also- campaign mode throws in really random aging. It's worse than LRB 4 at high SPP values (but better at low SPP values, I think.)

[Caelwyn]

also, the wizards are completely random by race. For example, dwarves get a team wide +1 AV buff for 2 turns, humans get a fireball, Chaos forces one member of the opposing team to randomly attack a player on his own side... But they are not well thought out at all- and there is no option to just get the standard fireball/lightning bolt wizard.

Also- campaign mode throws in really random aging. It's worse than LRB 4 at high SPP values (but better at low SPP values, I think.)

I play on classic and skip all that.

As to bribes, it may just be a bug with knocked out secret weapons. I know when they're on the field at the end of a drive you can definitely use a bribe.

Another bug is that some skills (juggernaught, grab, etc) which should allow you a choice as to usage do not.

[Ryan01]

Most of the skills say that the player may choose.

Juggernaut for instance says that the player may choose to treat Both Down as push back but as a dwarf I would happily treat Both Down as Both Down

[voyagers_uk]

THIS IS A CUMULATIVE UPDATE THAT INCLUDES FIXES OF ALL PREVIOUSLY RELEASED PATCHES.


MODIFICATION 1.0.1.10 VERSION:

- Fix a potential crash when one player has the skill Kick Off Return.

MODIFICATIONS 1.0.1.9 VERSION:

- Ball & Chain: The player can't use Diving Tackle, Frenzy, Kick-Off Return, Pass Block and Shadowing skills anymore.
- Diving Catch: Now work to catch ball at kick-off.
- Take Root: Is now rolled after Stand Up.
- Tentacles: Can now be use to prevent Leap from working.
- Fixed wrongly used dice modifiers on ball.
- Fixed random crashs occuring with sounds.

MODIFICATIONS 1.0.1.8 VERSION:

GAMEPLAY
- Blitz!: Stuns caused during Blitz! are not discounted anymore.
- Campaign: Playing teams are now more randomly selected.
- Dice Modifiers: Some modifiers were not properly applied.
- Fan Factor: Fan Factor variation is now properly computed.
- Go For It: A Go For It was rolled for the second block of Frenzy when this move was the last movement available.
- Go For It: Was not properly rolled when doing a Hand-off.
- Interception: An interceptor must be closer to the thrower than the thrower is to the target player/square of the pass, and closer to the target player/square of the pass than the thrower is to the target player/square of the pass.
- MVP: Players not available to play will not be eligible for MVP anymore.
- Placement: It is now impossible to swap a character in reserve with an opponent.
- Save: Saved games at turn 16 will not add an extra turn anymore when loaded.
- Simulation: Players with No Hands should not earn Pass/TD/Interceptions SPP anymore.
- Touchback: Can now give the ball to a team-mate in the opponent side after a Quick Snap event.
- Touchback: AI will not give the ball to a player with No Hands anymore.

GUI
- Lobby Chat: Blacklisted players' messages will not appear anymore.
- Lobby Chat: Will not return to foot of page anymore when receiving messages from other players.
- Petty Cash: Team values of both team are now displayed.
- Placement: Fixed a loss of input when placement timeout occured.
- Post Match: Fan Factor rolls are now displayed.
- SPP: Are now displayed on the player sheet.
- Turn Marker: Each team now has its own turn marker.

TEAMS
- Armours: Beastmen armours' prices have been updated.
- Armours: Buff probability of all armours are now properly used.
- Default teams: Now have correct team value.
- Goblin Fanatic: Now moves one square at a time, but is forced to spend his whole movement.
- Goblin Fanatic: Doesn't earn SPP anymore when knocking down players of his team or when injuring already down characters.
- Goblin Fanatic: Now Turnover happens when knocking down a team-mate.
- Goblin Looney: Will not get up anymore when failing a Dodge.
- Goblin Pogoer: Now has MA 7.
- Star Player Slibli: Now has AGI 1.
- Star Players: A Star Player will not play anymore if induced by both team.

SKILLS
- Chainsaw: A player dodging next to a character with Chainsaw is not hurt anymore by the chainsaw.
- Diving Tackle: fixed a bug where ball carrier was knocked down with the ball.
- Diving Tackle: A dodge roll could be re-rolled twice.
- Dump-Off: Timer fixed. Hail Mary Pass can not be used anymore during Dump-Off. Player that failed Really Stupid Roll are notre prompted anymore to use Dump-Off.
- Hail Mary Pass: Can now be used to launch the ball at a greater distance than Bomb.
- Horns: It now works correctly, even combined with Frenzy.
- Mighty Blow: It is now used to break armour only when needed, and is counted when re-rolling with Piling On.
- Pass Block: A player using Pass Block does not have to roll for a negative skill before to move (Really Stupid, Bone Head, Wild Animal and Take Root).
- Pro: can be used during the opponent turn to re-roll Tentacles and Shadowing. When you fail pro, dice is not re-rolled anymore.
- Really Stupid: A player with the Skill Really Stupid does not give a bonus anymore to a player rolling for Really Stupid.
- Right Stuff: The player with this skill may now take its turn if he is thrown before he has moved and fails to land but is uninjured
- Shadowing: Player should now be able to throw a Block next turn.
- Throw Team-Mate: Passing skills are now used.
- Stand Firm: Doesn't work anymore when the player is Prone.
- Very Long Legs: It now prevents the use of Safe Throw.


MODIFICATIONS 1.0.1.7 VERSION:

- Morg 'n' Thorg, a new Star Player, is available for all races!
- Bouncing ball when using Frenzy shouldn't freeze the match anymore.
- Fixed a case where invitation didn't work.
- Fixed a crash when AI had no players left on field.
- Fixed a memory leak in the GUI.

MODIFICATIONS 1.0.1.6 VERSION:

- Fixed cases of match save corruptions, players should now be able to recover most of previously not working match saves.
- Improved the multiplayer invitation system in order to help players with port issues.
- Journeymen and mercenaries will not lose their Loner Skill anymore when loading a saved match.
- Fixed rare cases where the AI could launch the ball more than once in the same turn.

MODIFICATIONS 1.0.1.5 VERSION:

- Players with the Chainsaw skill can't use Frenzy nor Multiple Block.
- Knocked Out players with the Secret Weapon skill are now correctly sent off by referee at the start of a drive.
- Blitzing with a knocked down player now correctly uses Blitz.
- Fixed characteristic increase skills not working in some case.
- Casualty SPPs are now properly awarded when apothecary is used on a casualty.
- Added a limited number of in-game pauses in multiplayer.
- Journeymen are now added before petty cash.
- Teams can hire Star Players in the open league.
- Private league owner can now change results of current day's games even if games have been played.
- Regional public rooms have been added in the multiplayer lobby.
- A multiplayer game where one of the player disconnects at the loading screen should now be discarded.
- Multisampling has been set to 1 in the option.

[voyagers_uk]

Moved this to Digital BB Resources

[voyagers_uk]

Bugs

Bribes:
- work automatically
- cant be used to save secret weapons

I use Bribes to keep my deathroller on pitch for the second half all the time.

Chainsaws:
- suffer a +3 armour modifier when they are fouled

Piling On:
- doesnt apply mighty blow to the re-roll

I am happy with the chainsaw +3 on fouls, but then I haven't really played as Goblins yet so it hasn't affected me.

Piling on / reroll includes Mighty Blow has been fixed.

Skills:
- are mostly compulsary (this seems fair enough though)

This is really annoying, GRAB during chainpushes stops you heaving them into the crowd. JUGGERNAUT on a Big Guy with Block stops you knocking over a player without Block during a Blitz

Stuff missing from the game

- Amazons, Chaos Dwarfs, Dark Elves, Halflings, High Elves, Khemri, Necromantic, Norse, Nurgle, Ogres, Pro Elves, Undead, Vampires
- Anything LRB5+ onwards including new teams
- Most star players
- Goblin bomber
- Wizards (you get scrolls instead but sadly not in the public league)
- Assistant coaches
- Bloodwiser babes
- Cards
- Halfling masterchef

I think it was well publicised that this stuff wasn't there yet. if we demand it thay will come... It will just take time.

[Melipone]

I got the impression from the cyanide forum there were way more bugs than this (r.e. correct implementation of the rules). Keep them coming! I am also sitting on the fence on buying this and wondering how of much the ruleset is compromised.

[SillySod]

Grab works on blitzes (tbh I like this bug)

I had a go with the scrolls system because it sounded kind of fun. Who cares if its LRB if it kind of does what a wizard should, right? Sadly it looks like the magic system in chaos league where the crowd let you cast stuff if they get excited My experience of the system so far is casting the lizardman "every opponent in a 5x5 radius gets bonehead" spell... which gave the opposing players bonehead for my turn and my turn only, so basicly did nothing

Loads of the "have a 28.3% chance of getting +St for a match" items and inducements dont feel terribly thought through. They might well be quite well balanced but I'm not such a fan of the semi-concealed pot luck factor. You can avoid them perfectly well though so I guess they're a nice bonus feature.

Losing a game (that you are easily winning) due to a disconnection is frustrating but way better than the alternatives. It does kind of obliterate the chances of leagues being terribly competitive though.

Bloodwiser babes seem to be available in the blitz mode but not in classic.... its just odd

I'll try and update the bug list when I have time. Keep em coming.

[Darkson]

Why not just copy the bug list from the Cyanide forum (which is updated by a forum member)?

[Melipone]

This one? http://www.cyanide-studio.com/forumBB/v ... 06&start=0

I was having trouble finding the bug list, this is the closest I could find but it only deals with skills (which admittedly sounds like by far the most problematic area).