Inducment Costing: Automatically Win an OT game

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:18 pm

Inspired by Digger's poll regarding 1 free TD, I wonder how much TBBers would charge for an inducement which basically is a weaker version- i.e. turning a tie into a win.

Basically, the refs would be bribed to award your team the match if you can just survive to OT. Like any bribe, it would work on a 2+.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:20 pm

1000K plus.

This is a guarenntedd win if the game goes to OT - the other is "just" a TD.

No, NO and NO!!!

mage75 · Post by **mage75** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:42 am

I don't like this one at all - thankfully it'll never make the rulebook (I hope) but if it were to come in, it should be at least a million, probably more.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:52 am

Almost the same as a 1 TD. Its only marginally worse since the difference is that if you are 1 down you still lose.

I'd never include either since it sort of impinges on the meta-game considerations - the advantage of winning is more money & FF - and I'd oppose an inducement that just gave extra cash anyway.

ngoike · Post by **ngoike** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:04 am

I think it's generally a bad idea. It encourages teams to stall if the score is tied. Which is the same type of game that is no fun to play.

I'd rather end a game as a draw if we don't have time to play it out.

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:40 am

I'd never add either one to my leagues... on principle alone. However, I was just curious what a fair cost would be. My first reaction was exactly what Darkson posted.

However, in the other post a +1 TD was valued routinely at less than 500k!

To be sure, automatically winning any game which goes into OT is weaker than getting a free TD at the start of the game!

If a free TD was worth 450k, I would value this at 350k. Personal feeling here...

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:43 am

Darkson wrote:1000K plus.

This is a guarenntedd win if the game goes to OT - the other is "just" a TD.

No, NO and NO!!!

Actually, it's much weaker than "just a TD"

If the underdog outscores the opposition on the pitch, than it's irrelevant.

If the underdog ties the opposition on the pitch, both methods have the underdog winning, although this method only gives them a 5/6 chance.

If the underdog is outscored by 1 on the pitch, the other method gives OT, whereas this method leaves it as a loss for the underdog.

In all ways... the proposed method is weaker than giving away a free TD!

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:42 pm

I disagree.

Digger Goreman · Post by **Digger Goreman** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:06 pm

Darkson wrote:I disagree.

landrover · Post by **landrover** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:26 am

27.3 million gp

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:49 am

Darkson wrote:I disagree.

I respect it, but don't understand your opinion.

But it's all academic, no matter what either one of us thinks about the relative value of this inducement vs. a free TD, these rules aren't getting within a ten mile radius of any leagues or tournies I'd ever play in!

PubBowler · Post by **PubBowler** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:56 pm

I'd allow it but on the condition that OT was was not used!

But I really think it's a horrible way to lose (and win) a game. I hate penalty shoot outs and I hate the penalty die offs that can occur in tournies on occasion. It's too random a way to win a game.

Speaking of OT, in fact I've never played in a league or tourney that uses it...

Grogmir · Post by **Grogmir** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:10 pm

Slow Bashy teams would love it.

No more worry about having to get that 2-1 victory just let them score whenever in the 1st half while you bash bash bash away. Then second half just slowly walk up and win 1-1.

I'm an english player anyway so we are happy to let a game finish in a draw, 'eck in Cricket it almost manditory.

Aliboon · Post by **Aliboon** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:57 pm

Yep, with Darkson on this one, would just encourage teams to go for the draw so they got the win.

Anyway, nowt wrong with a draw anyway.

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Inducment Costing: Automatically Win an OT game

How much should an inducement cost which, on a 2+, gives your team 1 TD if the game ends in a tie? This means that if regulation ends in a tie, you automatically win. The inducment would be revealed up front, before the game started.

Inducment Costing: Automatically Win an OT game